An elk hunt is in someones future!....Need a direction to start load development for the 300 Rem Ultra Mag....Bullet weight, design and powder.....Shooting out to 600 yards...A good scope and or reticle and power range choice can be voiced also...Thinking VX-3 LR maybe?.... never traveled to shoot anything but varmints. Thanks for any seasoned advice here guys.
Elk hunting w/ 300 RUM....loading data suggestions..bullets & powders
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I'm not a seasoned Elk hunter, but i own a custom .300 RUM. I would immediately buy a few boxes of Barnes PN 30879 180 grain Tipped Triple Shock X bullets and some H1000 plus Federal 215 GMM primers and Nosler brass. The elk won't know what hit them. The Barnes TTSX is the deadliest bullet I have shot on big game in any weight bullet or any cartridge. The .300 RUM is capable of great accuracy and will make for a Kodak moment with the components listed. Easily good out to 6-800 yards.
And a VX-3 in 4.5 -14 or 6.5-20 with either plain Duplex or Boone and Crockett reticle will be fine. Some say the Boone and Crockett reticle is too busy, and I personally like the plain jane Duplex. You need a good rangefinder and a come up chart also.
Frank
And a VX-3 in 4.5 -14 or 6.5-20 with either plain Duplex or Boone and Crockett reticle will be fine. Some say the Boone and Crockett reticle is too busy, and I personally like the plain jane Duplex. You need a good rangefinder and a come up chart also.
Frank
I could not have said it any better. +1000 If you want a little more downrange energy you can use the 200 grain Barnes LRX with H1000 and 215 GM40X Guy said:
i have hunted and taken elk, mostly with 300wm - my choice of bullet for you would be the Nosler partition 180's -- i have no experience with the Barnes so will leave that to someone else
The elk 600 yd shot is not common in most areas but may be where you are going, most guides will work you into 250-300 max
i use the Luep 4.5x14 and loved its clarity and sharpness, zero at 300 and dont know what to expect at longer range as drop, 27" at 500 etc.
Bob
The elk 600 yd shot is not common in most areas but may be where you are going, most guides will work you into 250-300 max
i use the Luep 4.5x14 and loved its clarity and sharpness, zero at 300 and dont know what to expect at longer range as drop, 27" at 500 etc.
Bob
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I have extensive experience with Barnes and Nosler in .308 and .338 calibers for elk in N.A. and elk sized animals in Africa. At this time I have switched to the Barnes TSX and TTSX. They are very accurate, penetrate better, and make larger wound channels and exit holes. The BC's are a little lower due to the grooves and they are long. Best of all were the MRX but they were extremely expensive and didn't sell so Nosler discontinued them. Have not tried the new Barnes long range version but they are extremey long. At up to 400yds or so the BC isn't that important in the overall scheme of things. Go with the heavier Barnes in your large capacity case. I crimp mine with the Lee factory crimp in the hunting loads. It will happen one day, but to date I have never had anything but almost perfect results.
i just build a rem 300rum. my best load is with retumbo, second best h-1000. with 90grs retumbo and 210 berger it will shoot one hole groups all day at 100yds. my bbl is 28in long! at 1000yds it will shoot inside 5in if i do my part. i only shoot shepherd scopes= no need for rangefinder. got my elk this year at a lasered 953yds. elk was dit=dead in tracks. i am very lucky as i have a 1000yd range at my home. i live in oregon but hate leupold scopes as they are junk= they dont track right and there ao sucks. i have sight in days at my range but do not let anybody use it with a leupold as i dont have all day to get them sighted in!!
BigDMT
Most 180-200 gr premium bullets will work wonderfully on elk when coming from a 300 RUM. The 200gr Nosler Accubond is an elk killing machine. Much heavier jacket than it's lighter 180gr version. Especially good at long range with a .588 BC
Most importantly is shot placement and follow up shots;
With a powerful cartridge like the 300 RUM, I would definitely shoot for the high shoulder if within range of your capabilities of properly placing the shot.
If it's windy or cannot get a steady enough rest, then the good ol' "power plant" always works
VERY IMPORTANT: Do not look at the elk to see if you hit it after the first shot! IMMEDIATELY reload after you fire and be ready to shoot again if they are not already going to the ground. They will often run after the first shot even if it is a solid lung or heart hit. Keep shooting until they hit the ground. A good elk guide will know to tell you this as well.
If placed correctly, the high shoulder shot will almost always drop them where they stand, but if using a guide service, some of them will not allow that shot placement. You will have to talk to your guide about what they want for shot placement. But either way, don't stop shooting til they are on the ground
Most importantly is shot placement and follow up shots;
With a powerful cartridge like the 300 RUM, I would definitely shoot for the high shoulder if within range of your capabilities of properly placing the shot.
If it's windy or cannot get a steady enough rest, then the good ol' "power plant" always works
VERY IMPORTANT: Do not look at the elk to see if you hit it after the first shot! IMMEDIATELY reload after you fire and be ready to shoot again if they are not already going to the ground. They will often run after the first shot even if it is a solid lung or heart hit. Keep shooting until they hit the ground. A good elk guide will know to tell you this as well.
If placed correctly, the high shoulder shot will almost always drop them where they stand, but if using a guide service, some of them will not allow that shot placement. You will have to talk to your guide about what they want for shot placement. But either way, don't stop shooting til they are on the ground
I'll second the 200 grain Accu Bond. I witnessed an elk kill of my budies at 900 yards, double lung ran 40 yards. He also took a Mule deer at 1180 with the same bullet. Just find an accurate load and get in lots of practice, even at 600 yards you need to be well practiced, and have a certain level of experience.
I bought a Remington sendero a few years ago and tried about 4 different powders and finally ended up using imr4350 of all things! I use 82.0 grains which I found out was an accuracy load in the nosler manual. I also use a 180 grain swift scirocco bullet. I was able to shoot .5 groups at 100 yards and .8 inch at 200. I have taken 2 mule deer and many rock chucks....nothing but fun. My furthest hit on a rock chuck competing with friends was at 478 yards! I use a 4x12 luepold but one of there 4.5x14 would be even better I think. Good luk on your hunt!
remy (the banker) Ihope you have a muzzle brake on it,,hahah...I fooled with em bak when they first came out,,,the weak part wuz the rem. brass...soooo get the good stuff,,,any 180-220 (I prefer Sierra because they usually will group better--and at long range you gota hit it to kill it..)bullet will kill anything it hits (as much power as a .458!!!) my fav powder was Rx-25(I bet the new Rx-33 will work good)--215 primers...your good for anything ....practice long shots and get a goo'd range finder and tape your trajectory on the buttstock where you can see it quickly...Roger
We have taken taken several elk luckily through the years with 3 calibers. 270 weatherby, my sons started gun on elk and a 7 wsm and a 300 winchester. there is a lot of very good quality bullets to chose from, I just find which bullet works in the particular gun best. The hornandy interbond work wells in two guns and has a good BC. Most shots where in the 400-500 range and had no issues with them going down if placement was good. One thing to, the quickload program will help on ambient if your loading for tune at well above your hunting temp, huge difference on your velocity when gets cold, well where i live anyway. and the feller that mentioned dope on stock good info, got it on all my hunting rifles. Ole boiler_house7 came from a 7x7 shot in the boiler room, Heck had to come up with something. Ha Ha. The farther you get out the more velocity skimmed off so so expansion does degrade but penetration still there, I never shoot over 180's but that's just me. Hard as it is to draw out, i spend a lot a time on load developement. Hope this helps Bill
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