Duplin vs center shot bipod

[broncman]

With centershots latest revision they look almost alike. Are their $50 difference between them? Bout ready to order a new bipod

 

[broncman]

Do you have any bounce with the centershot?

 

[eric32]

i shot the centershot bipod with a 28" bull barrel 308win 208amax with a very healthy charge of IMR4064 and even at 42gr no bounce but i am still trying to work my position the rifle will move off target to the left pretty bad and i cant seem to figure out why.

 

[ryanjay11]

Broncman, what do you mean by bounce? If you are asking if it wobbles front to rear, it does a very little bit. I think bounce would have more to do with your position and bag setup.

The gen 2 sinclair I had was a little bit more solid, but weighed twice as much and didn't have height adjustment. They came out with their new height adjustable model, but weight is still an issue and I like the Centershot design better. It doesn't require messing with the legs for coarse adjustments. You just turn the wheel.

The Duplin may just be the best of both worlds. It is light and very sturdy. They have photos of people standing on them. I just don't see $350 when I look at it. If the price was still $265, I'd probably order one and try it out.

Luckily there are more options out there all the time. The Phoenix Precision bipod looks like a great one as well.

 

[broncman]

The phoenix is crazy heavy. As far as bounce, I have read somewhere that the older centershots had some "spring" or bounce due to the carbon fiber rods??

Just wondering what the differences are in Duplin and Centershot besides pricing..

 

[Keith Glasscock]

I have a centershot. It does not bounce.

Now, bad position or an overly-long drop at the heel can make recoil lift it off of the ground. Personally, I have no problems with any bipod while shooting 155's. Heavy bullets are just another subject all together. No bipod (and I've tried a lot of them) can prevent the rifle from moving about in a spirited manner if anything isn't perfect in the setup. Even when it is as good as it can get, there is still the likelihood that shoulder displacement from the greater recoil will cause the rifle to come down pointing at a different target.

I would ask each maker about how they handle damaged bipods. I've been very happy with how John has treated me when I broke mine (and you will eventually break one CF or aluminum).

I absolutely recommend Centershot bipods to my friends. They are a great piece of equipment.

 

[broncman]

Thanks Bussdriver! Centershot sounds like the ticket.

Just curious...how did you break it? That could suck during a match!!

 

[XTR]

I have a centershot. It does not bounce.

Now, bad position or an overly-long drop at the heel can make recoil lift it off of the ground. Personally, I have no problems with any bipod while shooting 155's. Heavy bullets are just another subject all together. No bipod (and I've tried a lot of them) can prevent the rifle from moving about in a spirited manner if anything isn't perfect in the setup. Even when it is as good as it can get, there is still the likelihood that shoulder displacement from the greater recoil will cause the rifle to come down pointing at a different target.

I would ask each maker about how they handle damaged bipods. I've been very happy with how John has treated me when I broke mine (and you will eventually break one CF or aluminum).

I absolutely recommend Centershot bipods to my friends. They are a great piece of equipment.

Was yours the one that got crushed at Lodi?

 

[Va Jim]

The Phoenix is the same weight as a Sinclair original 2LB 4 oz. It is the BEST on the market in my opinion. But if weight is a issue then these other two choices both work well.

Va Jim

 

[Steve Blair]

The Phoenix is the same weight as a Sinclair original 2LB 4 oz. It is the BEST on the market in my opinion. But if weight is a issue then these other two choices both work well.

Va Jim

[br]
I have both a Center Shot and Duplin. The Center Shot has considerably more flex when the rifle is front heavy. Jim obviously makes good use of his Phoenix.

 

[broncman]

Thanks jim, I noticed the phoenix I believe on your rifle at Butner in October. What scope were you using? I have a savage 308 ftr and will be using a Niteforce BR. Worried a little about weight.

I was one of the new shooters..

Ken

 

[XTR]

Thanks jim, I noticed the phoenix I believe on your rifle at Butner in October. What scope were you using? I have a savage 308 ftr and will be using a Niteforce BR. Worried a little about weight.

I was one of the new shooters..

Ken

Ken, unless you are running a contour heavier than a Heavy Palma or longer than 32 inches, or you are doing all that and running a heavy adjustable cheek and buttstock then you should be fine. I run a Sinclair V3

My McM A5 with a 30" HV palma (Krieger), steel badger rings and rail, and a NF NSX 42 or BR32 weighs in at 17 or so, plenty of room left there. My cheek is a Karston, so it's pretty light compared to some of the pretty custom jobs, but the screws are steel, so it's not a feather weight.

 

[Keith Glasscock]

Thanks Bussdriver! Centershot sounds like the ticket.

Just curious...how did you break it? That could suck during a match!!

I tore a leg out of the ferrule (not from shooting). Fortunately, most matches I shoot are attended by John and he normally has one or two extras with him for just such an occasion. That said, I've never seen one crushed. I've heard of it happening , but I don't think any bipod (especially a light weight one) is going to put up with being stepped or fallen upon.

 

[Leaddog]

i shot the centershot bipod with a 28" bull barrel 308win 208amax with a very healthy charge of IMR4064 and even at 42gr no bounce but i am still trying to work my position the rifle will move off target to the left pretty bad and i cant seem to figure out why.

You are too far left of the centerline of the rifle. Change your position to get closer to the centerline. I use a Centershot for F/TR and have no bounce at all. It tracks straight back. I also use a 3 way adjustable buttplate that I can get the rifle solidly into the shoulder pocket where it needs to be.

 

[eric32]

i shot the centershot bipod with a 28" bull barrel 308win 208amax with a very healthy charge of IMR4064 and even at 42gr no bounce but i am still trying to work my position the rifle will move off target to the left pretty bad and i cant seem to figure out why.

You are too far left of the centerline of the rifle. Change your position to get closer to the centerline. I use a Centershot for F/TR and have no bounce at all. It tracks straight back. I also use a 3 way adjustable buttplate that I can get the rifle solidly into the shoulder pocket where it needs to be.

Thanks alot Charlie i will try that next time i shoot, what do you do about shoulder pressure?? Are you relaxed or pulling the rifle into your shoulder??

 

[broncman]

I watched Chuck Frutchey with a new sinclair and a hard rear bag shoot a possible senior master record in October. He talked to me quite a bit about his hold and as I watched, I noticed his rifle recoiled straight back. He had a cloth type mat and I noticed he settled the bipod into the mat and made like tracks by pushing it back and forth.
He used a light hold, basically looked like his forefingers pulling back, not a hard hold. He allways worked the rifle back and forth settling it in the mat and bag before he started shooting. He also emphasized how he lined his body up straight with the bore.

He shot his spindle out several times in one match!

 

[Leaddog]

i shot the centershot bipod with a 28" bull barrel 308win 208amax with a very healthy charge of IMR4064 and even at 42gr no bounce but i am still trying to work my position the rifle will move off target to the left pretty bad and i cant seem to figure out why.

You are too far left of the centerline of the rifle. Change your position to get closer to the centerline. I use a Centershot for F/TR and have no bounce at all. It tracks straight back. I also use a 3 way adjustable buttplate that I can get the rifle solidly into the shoulder pocket where it needs to be.

Thanks alot Charlie i will try that next time i shoot, what do you do about shoulder pressure?? Are you relaxed or pulling the rifle into your shoulder??

I use a firm in-the-shoulder hold with my .308. Shooting a .308 in F/TR is about management of recoil for consistency.

 

[eric32]

Thanks for the advice.

 

[Rustystud]

I do not own Duplin bipod, I own two Centershot bipods and have been very pleased with both of them. John is a great person to deal with. I have been told on good authority that the Duplin bipod is more rigid.
Nat Lambeth

 

[broncman]

Thanks guys! I just want to make sure I get something that I do not regret and wish I spent the extra money on something else..

Rustystud, do you have any issues with the centershot not being as rigid as others?
Sometimes do you wish it was more rigid?

May buy the Centershot, and if not totally pleased, put it in my 223FT/R rifle and just buy a phoenix and be done. Could use one on both rifles.

Ken