Do spiral brakes reduce rifle torque during recoil?

[jvw2008]

I've run across suggestions in some of my readings that the spiral pattern in a brake helps counter balance the rifle twist or torque that is induced as a bullet spins through the rifling. I do not understand this thinking since the counter force of escaping gas couldn't come into play until after the bullet has already passed the end of the brake. Anyone have thoughts on this or a reference that discusses brakes and rifle torque?

Jerry

 

[CatShooter]

I've run across suggestions in some of my readings that the spiral pattern in a brake helps counter balance the rifle twist or torque that is induced as a bullet spins through the rifling. I do not understand this thinking since the counter force of escaping gas couldn't come into play until after the bullet has already passed the end of the brake. Anyone have thoughts on this or a reference that discusses brakes and rifle torque?

Jerry

Looks cool... does nothing.

 

[jvw2008]

Are you saying "nothing" as far as recoil or torque?

 

[CatShooter]

Are you saying "nothing" as far as recoil or torque?

Nothing as far as torque.

 

[M-61]

Are you saying "nothing" as far as recoil or torque?

I read the OP's question as regarding TORQUE. Regarding torque the brake does nothing. SSS 'Dogtracker' stock, being offset (and I am sure there are other makers also) certainly made a difference regarding perceived twisting
(torque), at least on my 6.5x284. ( This is my perception on my rifle.)

 

[ryanjay11]

The torque is occurring before the bullet exits the bore. Regardless of sales pitches, no brake will counteract this.

 

[Macropod]

The torque is occurring before the bullet exits the bore. Regardless of sales pitches, no brake will counteract this.

Exactly.^

 

[jvw2008]

Thanks guys. You confirmed my line of thinking.

 

[338 Mollett]

Good topic !

 

[Lapua40X]

Love to see science win over rumor

 

[alinwa]

LOL

"recoil occurs before the bullet exits the bore.....regardless of hype nothing you can do after the bullet leaves can counteract this"

 

[CatShooter]

The torque is occurring before the bullet exits the bore. Regardless of sales pitches, no brake will counteract this.

Actually, that is not true.

Well designed muzzle breaks reduce or eliminate recoil, and they only start to work after the bullet leaves the barrel.

Very good breaks like the JP, or AR-50 can reduce recoil by 90%+.

But breaks are not designed to reduce torque... so they don't.

 

[ryanjay11]

The torque is occurring before the bullet exits the bore. Regardless of sales pitches, no brake will counteract this.

Actually, that is not true.

Well designed muzzle breaks reduce or eliminate recoil, and they only start to work after the bullet leaves the barrel.

Very good breaks like the JP, or AR-50 can reduce recoil by 90%+.

But breaks are not designed to reduce torque... so they don't.

You are so set on looking for an argument that you don't even read what others write. Reread what I wrote. It is exactly the same thing as this:

....breaks are not designed to reduce torque... so they don't.

 

[ryanjay11]

This is what I wrote:

The torque is occurring before the bullet exits the bore. Regardless of sales pitches, no brake will counteract this.

Then this is what you wrote:

LOL

"recoil occurs before the bullet exits the bore.....regardless of hype nothing you can do after the bullet leaves can counteract this"

Do you realize that you completely changed what I said so you can disagree?

 

[Eddie Harren]

"Scripture" has already been quoted regarding this subject. It is pointless to discuss it any longer.

 

[people]

This is what I wrote:

The torque is occurring before the bullet exits the bore. Regardless of sales pitches, no brake will counteract this.

Then this is what you wrote:

LOL

"recoil occurs before the bullet exits the bore.....regardless of hype nothing you can do after the bullet leaves can counteract this"

Do you realize that you completely changed what I said so you can disagree?

That is how he operates. It is just easier to block him.

 

[Syncrowave]

The torque force begins as soon as the bullet begins to spin, which is just past the throat of the barrel.

 

[mshelton]

Only thing that I've heard of that spiral brakes help with is keeping them threaded tightly.

Does it work, don't know.