I am just getting started in this long range shooting. Just been a hunter all my life. I found out the hard way this weekend that F class shooting will not be for me. At 59 years old and knee replacement on both knees the last 24 months I cannot pick my self up off the ground. Did a experiment last week in back yard. No can do. So looks like it will be all bench rest shooting and maybe not even competion because I don’t even think I will be able to pull the targets when it is my turn. So looks like prairie dog hunting , shooting gongs long range on some farmers / ranchers property and local rifle ranges 100 to 600 yards. Question ..... Do most competition Bench rest shooters use a rest with joy stick or one with out ? Wondering. I think for my kind of shooting above rest with out joy stick would work the best for my kind of shooting ! Your thoughts.... thanks. Marty