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Difficult to remove carbon (not standard powder fouling)

The problem with Flitz is that it polishes, quite rapidly. You do not want a mirror finish in your CF bore. Ask any barrel maker about this. It will increase the propensity for jacket fouling. You would be amazed at how coarse the abrasive is that is used for final lapping for finish.
It has its uses, like most products
 
Ok, soaking did not get the job done. Not a hard lesson to learn if you have a bore scope. If you are going to soak, soaking with Kroil may help a tad, prior to soaking with your favorite xyz.

It is good to buy a couple of dozen of good bronze bristle brushes from Sinclair. Brush with your favorite XyZ soaking solution, then let sit...you still get the pleasure of soaking, but the brush did the actual work.

It is normal to brush with JB in most of the barrels that have drill marks, plastic brushes do not work as aggressively as bronze bristle. Effort seems futile sometimes on barrels with a lot of tooling marks using JB on a plastic brush. Montana Extreme and Isso have the best plastic brushes I have used, but prefer to just use bronze bristle.

Flitz takes off metal faster than you would like, great for polishing the inside of dies. Flitz is perhaps 5x more abrasive than JB. The old Remington Bore cleaner in the Yellow container is equal to Flitz.

Soaking with xyz without brushing, then using a bore scope is about the same as discovering that there is no Santa Claus.
 
I use JB bout 10 strokes maybe 20 sometimes 10 usually works not very often just when the groups say it's time, but I do try to keep the crud out maybe every 50 or so shots powder fouling and dip spit
 
Montana Extreme copper cream is an excellent product, easier to use than JB, compare to JB suspended in oil. I use the Copper cream on patches, and when using on rough barrels, I will put the copper cream on a bronze bristle brush. The Copper cream is much easier to use than JB, and I feel as if they do comparable jobs on getting out carbon and copper.

Here is a link to Brownell's rifle bronze bristle brushes by the dozen:

https://www.brownells.com/gun-clean...ozen-pack-bronze-rifle-brushes-prod40081.aspx

I use a benchmark to measure a solvents effectiveness as 50 shots fired in between cleanings.
 
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