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Different alloy bullets

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I've often wondered about bullets other than lead, one that comes to mind is zinc alloy of which there are a bunch of different kinds commonly called pot metal. I know it can be easily cast having cast a steam engine out of old carburetors' although the melting point is a lot higher, it cast really nice. I've never had a bullet mold to try it in though. The weight would be less than lead for the same size bullet might be an advantage I don't know. Hyper velocity projectiles maybe. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?
 
It works well. One guy I know through forums and youtube it is all he shoots now. You need a iron mold and you can't use a Lee pot to melt the lead. It will burn through the thin steel. The zinc will eat right through it. An old Saeco pot is the preferred one to use. And you don't need any lube of any type
 
Lots of guys doing it over at Cast Bollits. Do you remember Gun Kid? the guy that talked about the assault wheelbarrow, and being protected by a debarked Chiwawa. He believed you could cast zinc bullet and run them in a 45acp at fantastic speeds. He was a hoot, but he may have been onto something with zinc 45 bullets.
 
I've often wondered about bullets other than lead, one that comes to mind is zinc alloy of which there are a bunch of different kinds commonly called pot metal. I know it can be easily cast having cast a steam engine out of old carburetors' although the melting point is a lot higher, it cast really nice. I've never had a bullet mold to try it in though. The weight would be less than lead for the same size bullet might be an advantage I don't know. Hyper velocity projectiles maybe. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?
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Howdy !

I’ve read of guys casting bullets with Bismuth, which is a fairly heavy materiel for not being lead. Bismuth is a non-toxic heavy metal, that has a low melting point. It has been used for some shotgun pellet ammunition. This would mostly be for a lower velocity application.

For some higher vel applications, it might be possible to wrap a lead, zinc; or Bismuth bullet with a paper “ patch “, or similarly…. wrap w/ self-stick ( nylon example ) tape.

Within certain calibers, it is possible to ( in some instances ) shoot a sub-calibre bullet in a larger calibre rifle; via use of a “ sabot “. Remington used to offer 55gr .224” cal bullets
held in .30 cal sabots, and marketed as .30-06 “ Accelerator “ ammo; for one example.
Sabots are used frequently in muzzle loader applications, one example would be shooting a .45 cal bullet from a .50 cal muzzleloader.

In recent years, one has been able to buy bullets “ turned “ from brass or solid copper.
The are even some ELR shooters, that “ role their own “ brass projectiles.

For something more exotic, water ice can be made very hard, when cooled to cryogenic temperatures. With use of an appropriately dimensioned and sealed “ mould “, a bullet could be cast using water…. and then cryo-cooled to final hardness. Such a bullet probably would benefit from use of a “ gas check “ fitted to its base. It also might work
( better ) if “patched” as mentioned above.

One hyper velocity non-lead projectile is a “ flechette “. These are sometime impact-formed steel projectiles, that weigh a comparable amount to smaller calibre light varmint bullets. These were known to have been used in the Viet Nam war, sometimes as
“ cargo munitions “ carried in large quantities; for ariel delivery from a outer case that splits open to deploy its cargo. There are flechette shotguns rounds available for purchase. During the Gulf War, one of our 2 battleships fired a few special purpose
16” shells; loaded w/ a large qty of flechettes. This was done as a diversion, to draw attention away from the US armored swing around Western Iraq. One coastal Iraqi complained on world news, that a flechette had penetrated the concrete wall of a nearby building; and then still penetrated completely through the fleshy upper portion of one of his thighs.… showing the wound to the camera. For anything remotely approaching accuracy, a flechette fired for a rifle ( smooth bore or otherwise ), would need some sort of sabot; or discarding light wt spacers.


With regards,
357Mag
 
Lots of guys doing it over at Cast Bollits. Do you remember Gun Kid? the guy that talked about the assault wheelbarrow, and being protected by a debarked Chiwawa. He believed you could cast zinc bullet and run them in a 45acp at fantastic speeds. He was a hoot, but he may have been onto something with zinc 45 bullets.
I think I do remember him I remember the assault wheelbarrow. I would think you could make a 50 gr 9mm and really make it zip right along I've got some turned brass bullets that are pretty interesting big hollow points with a spike sticking out the front. I got several different weights of them in .30 cal while looking for bullets for my 7.62x25.
 
When I sort lead wheel weights I keep the zinc weights just in case. I have no idea why, i have been pressed to get good lead bullets consistently. But I am still a newbie to cast. I also have not loaded shotshells yet. A friend from high school had a sure fire method to make small buckshot patterns. He decided how big he wanted his pattern, then cut a piece of fishing leader wire and made a circle that diameter. He split the buckshot halfway through and crimped the shot equally spaced around the wire. He then stuffed the whole thing in the 12 gage muzzle loader. I would have guessed it would have killed him, but no.
 

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