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Damaged bullets and accuracy

I have two experiences to add:
Drove over 220 miles to a match and realized that the 77gr TMK load I had grabbed was for a bolt-action .223 - I was shooting an AR. The bullets were loaded to 2.295".... The magazine could only handle 2.270. I chopped/twisted/hacked the tips off of those TMK's with a pair of side-cutting pliers and they shot the same as any other day. Thankfully the recipe for that rifle was very similar (24.6gr Varget, BR4's, Starline for both rifles). I was curious enough to try it again when I got back to my home range and only noticed margin-of-error deviation in group size to 300 yards. I did get a couple of "flyers" at 300 yards, but that also could have been me.

I had a match last year at my home range, PRS this time instead of a leg match, and I got home from work (I am a north slope rotational worker) to find no ready ammo for the .308 I was bringing. I loaded 150 bullets after getting off the plane into the wee hours of the night. I took a few hours nap and started loading the truck when I glanced at my Chargemasters - one was set at 44.5gr and the other was set at 45.4gr.... I pulled all of those Juggernauts with an RCBS collet puller and recharged each case to 44.5gr and then seated them back in. I made it to the shooter's meeting and had a good enough showing for the match. After the match was over I had 30 bullets remaining and I was at my home range so I shot them for 5 shot groups at 100yds and they were exactly the same .3ishMOA as any other group I get from that load in that rifle with absolutely no POI shift. During the match I was banging steel 5 out of 6 at 1190yds.

These two experiences, and some talks with manufacturers, lead me to believe that a bullet can take significant damage almost anywhere except the base and still be "good". Probably not long range benchrest, but certainly field practical.
Your results and opinions will probably differ.


Edited for grammar.
 
, maybe preforming a seating test pushing bullets deeper into the case keeping them off the front of magazine would help alleviate the problem.

I've no evidence to support this; but my mind tells me loading them as long as the magazine will allow would be better. So as to not allow the round a "running start" at the magazine.
 
I've no evidence to support this; but my mind tells me loading them as long as the magazine will allow would be better. So as to not allow the round a "running start" at the magazine.
I get what your saying.
On my 6x45 AR, I've windowed the magazine to load long, it leaves copper track in the mag well, knowing all to well I could push them deeper in the case to the next seating depth window.
I don't know why everyone is so concerned about loading as long as possible "including myself".
Is it to keep away from compressed loads gaining case capacity?
Staying out of the dreaded doughnut?
Would we better suited with a denser powder that best fits the bill for intended purposes?
In @Idaho-Lefty case being a hunting rifle, I'd probably address proper neck tension and seat deeper to the next accurate load to eliminate any possible meplat damage.
 
If the bullet tip has no bearing on bullet performance, why are there "polymer tipped" bullets. Heat resistant polymer tipped bullets and now aluminum tipped. Each a "proven" accuracy and ballistic advancement.
Actually there were tests showing that the plastic melting in the tip was causing problems. Then there is the problem of, if that tip isn't aligned perfectly, it will cause accuracy loss. I believe the pointy tips have more to do with higher BC then accuracy. Matt
 
Back from, the Desert and the Recoil does NOT, Damage / bend, the Berger 140 grain, Classic Hunter, HP "Tips" in a Tikka Magazine, using, a Max load of, 66.3 grains of IMR 7828 at over, 3,150 FPS
65.7 gr's shot, much better, in my Gun, tho ,.. 1/2 MOA so far,.. YIPPEE !
 

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