CZ 457 MTR
- Thread starter J.D.Erwin
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J.D.Erwin
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26558/606226 50 yds for sure
dusterdave173
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Our gang has 4 new MTR's they are all shooting great! They all seem to like about 19-20 in lbs on action screw tq They all seem to like fresh clean barrels--other than that they are hammering! Two of us tied for first in last match and the other rifle finished second and then a third--we are shooting against tricked out rifles --all we have done is a trigger spring
FWIW at 20 in lbs the front action screws do seem to loosen up a little after a match--stay on top of it--we tested in 5 in lb increments to find the sweet spot--and all seem to love SK
Good shooting there JD ! Have Fun!
FWIW at 20 in lbs the front action screws do seem to loosen up a little after a match--stay on top of it--we tested in 5 in lb increments to find the sweet spot--and all seem to love SK
Good shooting there JD ! Have Fun!
J.D.Erwin
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My like the in lbs at 22# on the front screw and 18 in lbs on the rear screw I also put in the trigger spring and I'm running it at 10 oz. the lapua and SK are about the same group size.
Aim Small / Shoot Small
Jerry
dusterdave173
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We have discovered during lots of normal testing and from match experience
CLEAN fresh barrel shoots best--we kept on doing our best of the day on first card--every match--we only shoot two cards at the one match but shoot 4 at our other place --we were not doing well in the second matches
During a long test yesterday where we ran through about 350 rounds through each of two MTR's --we found if we cleaned every 50-60 rounds that scores were much better--things would tail off after about 125 to 150 and just make ammo look bad and make us look bad--we would run two wets and 5-6 dry then a few pops to get it back and whammo--Back to x's and looking like we knew how to shoot
CZ457 MTR's
CLEAN fresh barrel shoots best--we kept on doing our best of the day on first card--every match--we only shoot two cards at the one match but shoot 4 at our other place --we were not doing well in the second matches
During a long test yesterday where we ran through about 350 rounds through each of two MTR's --we found if we cleaned every 50-60 rounds that scores were much better--things would tail off after about 125 to 150 and just make ammo look bad and make us look bad--we would run two wets and 5-6 dry then a few pops to get it back and whammo--Back to x's and looking like we knew how to shoot
CZ457 MTR's
Gabe22BR
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How would a MTR shoot with aluminum pillars installed & full action bedding???
Would this keep the accuracy on par??
Jeff Porter
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CZ 457 Manners MTR - CZ-USA
The CZ 457 Varmint Precision Trainer MTR, in a limited run of 500 units a year, for rimfire competition training with 22 LR ammunition.
cz-usa.com
Gabe22BR
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Got it-still don’t answer my question-CZ 457 Manners MTR - CZ-USA
The CZ 457 Varmint Precision Trainer MTR, in a limited run of 500 units a year, for rimfire competition training with 22 LR ammunition.
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Jeff Porter
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I thought the manners had pillars. Sorry bout that
CharlieNC
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The first thing to check is to remove the action screws and rock the action in the stock to determine it is actually riding on the pillars. Mine had a sea-saw rocking motion on a high spot between the pillars, and removing a little wood in that region resolved it plus unusual flyers.
Gabe22BR
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You are ready to bed your action also-
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dusterdave173
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I will tell you our experience--we bought 4 at one time--4 shooters in Factory Class--we added a trigger spring--set screw tq after testing and away we went. So far in last couple of months we have racked up 4 wins, 5 runner ups and 5-6 3rd place. We shoot against MTR rifles that have been bedded, re chambered, re crowned, pillared, tuner goo under the barrels etc etc--Average scores are 15-18x with every now and then a 21 or 22x We shoot right with all the fancy modified rifles
I would not dare mess with mine unless they start whooping us--so far we are hanging in there with them---also most are using rests--we shoot bipods and Protektor rear bags
I think that is our weak spot--getting the rifles steady and ammo Not the fancy mods--now I base this on what I have observed in the last few months at matches.
We constantly strive to get the bipods steadier--removing the rubber feet is Job #1, then we are using them at shortest height with slack taken up by wood board with holes drilled to accept the bipod legs--sand paper on bottom of the boards. I think a bipod is like a ladder--if you are on the top step it waves around ( bipod on extended legs) If you have it at lowest setting much less play.
I would not dare mess with mine unless they start whooping us--so far we are hanging in there with them---also most are using rests--we shoot bipods and Protektor rear bags
I think that is our weak spot--getting the rifles steady and ammo Not the fancy mods--now I base this on what I have observed in the last few months at matches.
We constantly strive to get the bipods steadier--removing the rubber feet is Job #1, then we are using them at shortest height with slack taken up by wood board with holes drilled to accept the bipod legs--sand paper on bottom of the boards. I think a bipod is like a ladder--if you are on the top step it waves around ( bipod on extended legs) If you have it at lowest setting much less play.
dusterdave173
Silver $$ Contributor
Another Trick we have learned with the ATLAS Bipods
I noticed the notches for leg positions are Tapered--so I have found that when leg is in desired position I can pry the pin outward--I started out using a screw driver but now use a brass drift and a whack with a very small hammer--You know you have done it right when you can't mash the button on the outside and release the leg==This tiny trick actually takes some slack and motion Out of the bipod--causing you to need almost no loading--it has helped us a lot--we discovered this by simply observing our rigs on bags and bipod and simply pushing fore and aft to discover where all the slop was coming from--Guys this really works but nothing works until you ditch the wobbley rubber feet on the Atlas-- You can get all the slop out of your set up and thus have to "load" the rig MUCH less if at all
This has really helped our crew
I noticed the notches for leg positions are Tapered--so I have found that when leg is in desired position I can pry the pin outward--I started out using a screw driver but now use a brass drift and a whack with a very small hammer--You know you have done it right when you can't mash the button on the outside and release the leg==This tiny trick actually takes some slack and motion Out of the bipod--causing you to need almost no loading--it has helped us a lot--we discovered this by simply observing our rigs on bags and bipod and simply pushing fore and aft to discover where all the slop was coming from--Guys this really works but nothing works until you ditch the wobbley rubber feet on the Atlas-- You can get all the slop out of your set up and thus have to "load" the rig MUCH less if at all
This has really helped our crew
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dusterdave173
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Well..just received this used MYSTIC Bipod from member here--just back from testing
We shoot 50 yd off the bench--Wow! We have been fighting the "loading" issue on bipods--have experimented with lots of them and this EGW Mystic Bipod sure seems to Solve the issue--Zero back and forth movement--It was refreshing to just concentrate on the rear bag, the hold, and trigger while NOT thinking about the bipod loading --This bipod looks like a game changer for our application! I can't tell you how much better the whole rig felt--target results were very very promising--so just scored a second one for my shooting buddy from another member here
THANKS Accurateshooter!! What a great bunch of folks here. And...these are USA made!
Next match in about a week so ...we will see.
We shoot 50 yd off the bench--Wow! We have been fighting the "loading" issue on bipods--have experimented with lots of them and this EGW Mystic Bipod sure seems to Solve the issue--Zero back and forth movement--It was refreshing to just concentrate on the rear bag, the hold, and trigger while NOT thinking about the bipod loading --This bipod looks like a game changer for our application! I can't tell you how much better the whole rig felt--target results were very very promising--so just scored a second one for my shooting buddy from another member here
THANKS Accurateshooter!! What a great bunch of folks here. And...these are USA made!
Next match in about a week so ...we will see.
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Gabe22BR
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Y’all have the Valdada bipod ???
www.valdada.com
Valdada HD "ANVIL" super stable rifle bipod
Valdada HD "ANVIL" super stable rifle bipod
dusterdave173
Silver $$ Contributor
Wow now That looks like a sturdy steady bipod!!
Nope don't have one--we are not cheap skates just old retired guys that don't ever want to work a job again-so way out of our budget. We enjoy trying to beat the $$ crowd at the match that are shooting off of high dollar rests.
Nope don't have one--we are not cheap skates just old retired guys that don't ever want to work a job again-so way out of our budget. We enjoy trying to beat the $$ crowd at the match that are shooting off of high dollar rests.
J.D.Erwin
Gold $$ Contributor
dusterdave173
please let me know how the MPOD works for you after a few range trips maybe something I need to add to my CZ 457 thanks
Aim small Shoot small
Jerry
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