Custom/ off the shelf dies

[wildchild]

So here's the question for those experienced with both. I ordered a dasher reamer with the die cutting reamer as a matched pair, I have the rifle chambered and using forester dies. My question is will the die reamer make better ammo?
I just gotta get around to getting it done, but the option is there. so has anyone experienced or seen the advantage of this option?

 

[Catfish]

No. Brass alway springs back alittle so the sizer die has to be slightly smaller than the chamber die. If your useing a neck bushing die always get a bushing .002 smaller than the neck dia.

 

[wildchild]

My question is will the die reamer make better ammo?

It certainly should. That's the whole idea behind ordering the chamber/sizer matched pair. I have a couple of chamber reamer/die reamer pairs. They're a step above the Harrell's and way above off the shelf stuff. Don't know where you had them made but Kiff apparently makes the Dasher die reamers for Redding so his chamber reamers are a pretty good match for the Redding Type S dies. Since you have the die reamer I'd go that way.

Mine were made with Newlon Precision blanks, about $70 I believe.

Ya there kiffs.
Id say theoreticaly it should be better, im kinda askin for proof
when ya get a manufactured die do you get the 5 o clock friday cut 100 dies reamer or did ya get the Tuesday mornin fresh one? Does it matter?

 

[BoydAllen]

The sizing die will change dimension when it is heat treated, and it will need final polishing after it is. Because of this, and brass spring-back, the sizing reamer is at best, an educated guess. On the other hand, if you can come up with some well used fired brass, in the caliber that you are building, buy an off the shelf die, and size it. You know exactly what the dimensions of the sized brass will be, after spring-back, and having a reamer ground with the clearances that you want is no big trick. The other advantage to this approach is that it is less expensive, saving you the price of a reamer and having a die made with it.

 

[Rtheurer]

Finally Some thinking ahead to use Factory dies and setting your chamber reamer up to the die instead of the other way around costing a guy alot more money for what? ( another Die reamer and Die)
If there is no sizing dies available for a certain wildcat I get that, but 99% of what is out there is on the shelf already. Why not match your Chamber reamer to that? This is why get my own chamber reamers and they are matched to the die that i purchsed off the shelf weather it be Redding or Forster. As dumb as I am, I cant figure out why more folks dont do this?.

RT

 

[Shynloco]

Finally Some thinking ahead to use Factory dies and setting your chamber reamer up to the die instead of the other way around costing a guy alot more money for what? ( another Die reamer and Die)
If there is no sizing dies available for a certain wildcat I get that, but 99% of what is out there is on the shelf already. Why not match your Chamber reamer to that? This is why get my own chamber reamers and they are matched to the die that i purchsed off the shelf weather it be Redding or Forster. As dumb as I am, I cant figure out why more folks dont do this?.

RT

I am certainly no expert on this, but to answer your question, it is the idea that though a Chevy part may fit on a Cadillac, you want to buy the Cadillac part because it was made specifically for it, even though it may cost you twice as much. With some folks, money is irrelivant.

 

[wildchild]

Finally Some thinking ahead to use Factory dies and setting your chamber reamer up to the die instead of the other way around costing a guy alot more money for what? ( another Die reamer and Die)
If there is no sizing dies available for a certain wildcat I get that, but 99% of what is out there is on the shelf already. Why not match your Chamber reamer to that? This is why get my own chamber reamers and they are matched to the die that i purchsed off the shelf weather it be Redding or Forster. As dumb as I am, I cant figure out why more folks dont do this?.

RT
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I am certainly no expert on this, but to answer your question, it is the idea that though a Chevy part may fit on a Cadillac, you want to buy the Cadillac part because it was made specifically for it, even though it may cost you twice as much. With some folks, money is irrelivant.

OR there stuck thinking in the BOX!

 

[BoydAllen]

Have you fellows that seem to be skeptical about the idea of working from a factory die ever done it, or are your assumptions as to the inferior results that would supposedly be obtained with this method just speculation. I have used this approach for about a half a dozen projects for myself and friends, and know that, if properly done, it works quite well. Would you care to cite your experience, or is it mostly an extrapolation from misapplied auto parts?