custom 22LR groups ?
- Thread starter Westex
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For me, furnishing pics of groups would not mean much, unless the seller was also including with the rifle sale a couple of bricks (even a case maybe!) of the particular lot of ammo used to shoot those groups
. Eventually, you will have to forage for "good" ammo, so if the rifle sports a good brand name and/or components (like barrel make/type) without ammo, I'd consider that sufficient. But you just won't ever know until you have that rifle in your hands and it is performing.
. Eventually, you will have to forage for "good" ammo, so if the rifle sports a good brand name and/or components (like barrel make/type) without ammo, I'd consider that sufficient. But you just won't ever know until you have that rifle in your hands and it is performing.
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Lots of ways to fake groups so I would never trust them.
Depends on the "type" of shooting being done with the high $$ guns, if a BR gun (ARA/ABRA, etc) is advertised, groups will only tell you it shoots the ammo into a nice group, but the key to that type of gun is how does it do (scores) on a full target of 20-25 bulls. RF BR is shooting the dot out of each bull that is scored individually, miss the dot and a lower score for that bull.
PRS/NRL type rifles (still high $$) shoot at varying distances, against barricades, etc., at different targets (steel) so how those guns group at 50 yds and beyond is more important and you would probably look for consistency over the entire distances, not just 50yds like in BR RF.
PRS/NRL type rifles (still high $$) shoot at varying distances, against barricades, etc., at different targets (steel) so how those guns group at 50 yds and beyond is more important and you would probably look for consistency over the entire distances, not just 50yds like in BR RF.
Liven The Dream
Gold $$ Contributor
A picture could be from any rifle ? How would you know ?
I have had Rifles that my Buddy shot better than me .
I have had Rifles that my Buddy shot better than me .
All rifles are sold for a reason. Thinking you are going to buy a used rifle that is shooting at a championship level is probably not realistic. I always assume it will need work. A buddy bought one and it wouldnt shoot in a bucket. He cleaned the crap out of it and it now regularly shoots 1600s prone. I bought one and it needed bedding and trigger work before it shot. Pay your money and take your chance. Then go to work to make it preform.
Racerman56
Silver $$ Contributor
It's not all about better groups with the higher dollar rifles. The bigger advantage is better consistency group to group and ammo lot to ammo lot.
If I was giving advice on buying a rifle, I would say shoot it first. If you have to travel to do it or meet the seller. If the seller won't agree or the logistics keep you from shooting it, pass on it and keep looking. We have never sold any of our rifles but if we decided to sell one I would be adamant on the buyer coming to shoot it first.
Todd
Todd
Hi-NV Shooter
Gold $$ Contributor
Based how the rifle might shoot on who is selling it. I always assume a new barrel will be needed.
Lee
Lee
doclu60
Silver $$ Contributor
Oh my, so many opinions! I sold a rifle last fall. A rifle I didn't really spend that much time with, but I try to keep my competition rifle inventory (ARA UL and IR50/50 3-gun) at 6 rifles. 2-UL guns, 2-10.5lb guns and 2-Sporters. Another UL rifle was coming into the inventory and something had to go.
A new guy bought it and spent some time with it. He never shot the rifle before purchase. It had a good low round count barrel on it and that wasn't replaced. He beat me last weekend shooting that rifle. He spent the time with the rifle, I didn't.
Point is this, there are tons of very good rifles that come up for sale in the RFBR niche market that are real sleepers. I do not subscribe to some of the opinions posted here. My experience on just one rifle kind of validates that, and there are hundreds of other sales over the years that will support it as well. JME
Scott
A new guy bought it and spent some time with it. He never shot the rifle before purchase. It had a good low round count barrel on it and that wasn't replaced. He beat me last weekend shooting that rifle. He spent the time with the rifle, I didn't.
Point is this, there are tons of very good rifles that come up for sale in the RFBR niche market that are real sleepers. I do not subscribe to some of the opinions posted here. My experience on just one rifle kind of validates that, and there are hundreds of other sales over the years that will support it as well. JME
Scott
Hi-NV Shooter
Gold $$ Contributor
Scott, Like I said base it off who is selling. if you were selling, I am sure I will know exactly what I was buying.
Be well my friend,
Lee
not sure why there is a double quote?
Hi-NV Shooter
Gold $$ Contributor
Getting to shoot it is the best way to buy, like buying a car test drive it first.
Lee
Here is a 10 shot group I shot with my 22 at 600 yards, shot standing on one leg shooting backwards using a mirror to aim with Remington Thunderbolt ammo after
running 2 miles and 100 pushups.
running 2 miles and 100 pushups.
Hi-NV Shooter
Gold $$ Contributor
What only one group?
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I am like Hi-Nv, before I took your word on it, I would want to see a second group... SMILE/Wink.
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