Coyote Call

[mikeinct]

I'm trying to find a decent mouth type Coyote call. I've been Reading & listening to "Lots of you tube experts. Meh, So far I'm liking the ELK inc Brand..Can any of you give me some advice on a decent howl or yelp type call ...I'M just trying to figure out how many coyotes are in this new to me area.. That I'm going to hunt in..Quick stop, listen, howl & see what calls back ..TIA...Mike in Ct

 

[AckleymanII]

Coyote language:

Interrogation howl-
Female invitation
Young coyote invitation and Interrogation
Challenge howl
Warning barks and howls

You had better know what you are doing with various howlers and how to use them.

 

[22DASHER]

You will just have to buy several and see which one works the best for you. There is really no other way. Some are very easy and sound great to one caller and then the next person cannot even make a sound with it. I agree you need to know what the howls are and when to use them. From my experience coyotes are not that fussy with the quality of sound/howls/etc. If they are coming they are coming....they don't care if I stick a call or not.

 

[Sniper338]

Fox pro. Leaves you mouth free for beer.

 

[Lannister]

I have called more yotes with the tally ho than any other. Burnham bros was my first call, a rubber ban call, killed my first yote with it back in the 70's. had several Burnham bros too. I have use Johnny Stewart, critter calls, Primos and I've made my own calls too. like Open reed calls. they call worked.

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

 

[pre64win]

http://www.varmintal.com/ahunt.htm
Everything you want to know about calling coyotes and were afraid to ask.

 

[K22]

First let me say I'm no expert on hunting coyotes (I am when it comes to ghogs ) I took up coyote hunting for something to do in the winter. Been doing it now for about 10 years or so.

I have an old cheap Primo's electronic call which does provide for remote calling up to about 100 yard which is good enough. It only has about 6 selections. I don't think the call you select is that critical. What think is critical based on my granted limited experience is listed below.

What I've learned is (1) paying attention to the wind in critical and I've had my most success on windless evenings or mornings (2) remain as still as you can - they pick up movement easily and will spook, and finally but most importantly make sure you're hunting in an area where there are signs of coyotes, i.e. tracks and scat. I won't sit a stand for more than 30 minutes if I don't see anything.

The guys I know who are most successful are those who hunt at night with night vision equipment - I don't hunt at night - I'm not that committed. The ones I know use the FoxPro callers - the expensive ones.

 

[AckleymanII]

I have hunted coyotes since the 70's. I would advise you not go get into hand held howlers, must less diaphragm howlers. I have howlers and know how to use them. You are more apt to scare off coyotes vs calling them in if you do not know what you are doing.

 

[bluealtered]

I would have to agree with AckleymanII, two things i would add is forget the mart-mart cheap calls, they pretty much all use the same reed no matter what they say. The other thing which is very important is don't ever learn to use your new call where you are planning to hunt. You are teaching your prey every time you make a call.
Practice in your rig or some place you aren't going to hunt or do it at home and drive all the dogs around you nuts. They will tell you when your getting good, (but you will probably have less friends when your done.)

 

[mikeinct]

Yep I'm going to practice here in Ct & hunt in Pa. The neighbors will love me...Got it. So has anyone used that Elk inc howler call to practice w ? I have a nice wet nature area not 500 yds from my back porch...GRIN... mike in ct

 

[pdhntr]

I'm trying to find a decent mouth type Coyote call. I've been Reading & listening to "Lots of you tube experts. Meh, So far I'm liking the ELK inc Brand..Can any of you give me some advice on a decent howl or yelp type call ...I'M just trying to figure out how many coyotes are in this new to me area.. That I'm going to hunt in..Quick stop, listen, howl & see what calls back ..TIA...Mike in Ct

Hi Mike,
I would suggest trying to listen for them at sunset and shortly after, looking for tracks and scat to try to get a feel for the population. As others have said, until you know what you are "saying" to them, you would likely be educating them.

Another issue is that coyotes in different parts of the country will have a "local dialect" that can be slightly different from what you hear on the internet or resource you are using. For instance, the coyotes in the areas I have called out west have a more drawn out beginning to their howls. The howls from the coyotes in this part of Wisconsin have a very compressed beginning. The coyotes out west will often start with a yip or two. Where I am, they often don't yip at all, and go right into the howl.

Regardless, this doesn't answer your question. When I go calling, I usually take a half a dozen calls, but only one howler. It is the Bill Austin Long Range Coyote Howler and in my opinion it can do everything you need. You can make your own reeds for it also using pattern plastic from the local sewing store. One sheet will last a lifetime. If the rubber O-rings break, a thick rubber band works just as good.

Good luck.

Jim

 

[mikeinct]

I live in the suburbs here in ct. Can't even shoot/trap them legally. Dam things know they are safe. Had a few fighting over something in the neighbors front yard at about 3AM a good while back. Two weeks ago I had tracks inside my fenced yard. They have no fear around here. My old Bird Dog Addie is gone...Mike in Ct

 

[AWS]

Instead of using a howler, we used to locate with a siren. Now I just cold call an area. I've been at it long enough to have pretty good estimate if it is a good spot to call.

 

[bluealtered]

The more you practice with even a mart-mart call you should find that it can make more than one sound, most cheap cottontail calls can produce three or four different sounds. As you become more comfortable with your call you will learn that the call is indeed the instrument but you are the one who is making it cry, scream, whimper, or sound like what ever works best in your area at that time of year. Different times of the year mean different sounds should be coming out of that call to get the most out of your hunt.

 

[Barlow]

I agree with Ackleyman. I have at least 5 hand howlers and I cannot get them to sound right. The easiest to use and best sounding at least to me is the Primos white one. iirc they come in a two pack, green and white (open reed). Here in northern Wisconsin the coyotes have PHD's. I haven't hunted in a month, the snow is DEEEEEP. Barlow

 

[yotehater]

My favorite ones are the Haydel CH-92 coyote howler for locating barks and challenge calls, the Circe P-1 Course long range rabbit for loud squealing and distress, and a fairly new squeaker offering by Flextone "dying mouse" in a soft quiet rubber when things get close.



In wooded areas I'll start with the mouse squeaker and go up. Open country it's hard to beat using the Circe or Haydel's as they are loud when blown hard.

 

[mikeinct]

I don't have your experience...But, the mouse squeak sound is killer..I Only did it once, from inside a brush pile,not five mins into calling. I had one at my feet using a squeak sound.. that grey fox or Coyote Surprised the hell out of me. I forgot to shoot !!! Mike in ct

 

[msinc]

Yep I'm going to practice here in Ct & hunt in Pa. The neighbors will love me...Got it. So has anyone used that Elk inc howler call to practice w ? I have a nice wet nature area not 500 yds from my back porch...GRIN... mike in ct

Hi Mike, I am not sure if it is the same thing, but the one I use I got from a guy over on predatormasters.com. His username is "ultramag" and he uses an elk call mouthpiece with a buffalo horn attached for volume. The main reason I went with this call is because it sounds so realistic over the open reed calls. To me they kind of have a quacky duck like sound. I know guys use them out west because they wont freeze up in the extreme cold, but they definitely don't sound as good and here in the east we kind of don't have that freeze up problem. Here is a photo of the one he made for me. It is very easy to blow and I am for sure not even close to an expert or even "skilled" caller with mouth calls for anything. The female mating call is most effective for me when they are breeding. Otherwise I use a Wildlife Tech Mighty Atom. Has the best sounds, but not the best remote for night use...it is not back lit. In the photos you will note that the rubber piece is not there...need to install a new one. He engraves the coyote track and paints it any color you want for a few dollars more. You will not be disappointed with this calls ease of use, sound and performance. Ultramag is right up in New York and a very nice fellow to deal with. Best of luck sir!!!
These pictures don't do the polished buffalo horn justice. I know pretty don't call coyotes, but the sound and volume is there too. Here is a tip I learned the hard way...if you are calling in an area where you know there are coyotes and not getting any responses {which is real typical!!} take this caller with you and get up in a tree stand and don't call. Just hunt and use the caller to stop one if you have one coming through on the move so you can get a good shot. They don't all respond to a caller and if they are not then just getting out in the woods with your scent above ground level is the best chance you have in that area.

Edit: forgot to mention that the rubber piece is nothing but a section of a finger from a latex surgical glove. Nothing special or hard to find. The photos don't show that this howler comes with a mouth piece cover that also stores extra rubber "reeds".