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Considering an Athlon Rifle Scope for my .308 Savage, Any Athlon Users?

Jay here, I'm considering an New Athlon rifle scope for my .308 Savage for hunting. I've seen lots of good reviews so far and I'm eyeing the Ares BTR 4.5-27X50 First Focal Plane Scope. It's got HD Glass, and a zero stop and the price is extremely competitive compared to the PST! $849.99

Any thoughts on this scope? Does anyone own any other Athlon rifle scopes? I hear they've got a lifetime warranty like vtx. It's a lot of $$ for me to drop even at such a good price so I'd like to get some feed back from any Athlon users.

http://athlonoptics.com/product‐cat...e-scopes-ares-btr-4-5-27x50-aplr3-ffp-ir-mil/
 
I have two Athlons. The high end Cronus is made in Japan and is an excellent competitor to the Razor class at a better price. Other models are made in China. An Argos FFP 6-24 currently rides my 223 trainer; in addition to an excellent reticle design it is also illuminated which is useful for low light hunting. I've used it for nearly a year now with no issues, and routinely shooting 1000yd steel the optical quality is adequate especially for $350. The Sightron SIII FFP has better optical quality in your price range. Looking through the PST line, I have not been impressed with the optical quality but that's just my eye's opinion.
 
While I agree with CharlieNC about the Sightron SIII have better optic quality,the MOA-2 reticle is a poor choice in FFP. I have 5 Sightron scopes but all are SFP.
I bought an Athlon Midas BTR SFP scope last year to compare with the Sightron's. I really like the reticle choices that Athlon has,and the glass is close to the Sightron glass. The turret feel isn't as good as the SIII turrets,but the tracking has been very good on the Midas. I do wish the Athlon came with a sunshade,the scope gets a bad barrel glare past 20x without a sunshade on my 260AI with a 20moa base.

Overall,I feel the Athlon Midas BTR is a good scope for the price.
 
I have a Cronus, a Cronus BTR, and and Argos FFP 6-24X. All are quite good scopes. I am waiting on the Ares to show up. I also have several Nightforce scopes, all older models in SFP and have no problems with any of them. The Athlon scopes are basically my first major use of FFP scopes. As stated above, the Cronus scopes are made in Japan at one of the top manufacturers (LOW) apparently.
 
PS I did use the Argos on an elk hunt last year. At first light dialed it up 1.0 mil and dropped a nice cow at 350yd. Suitable optical quality for hunting. For good hunting prep shoot a few tactical matches and you will get great practice at setting up quickly. I'm comfortable deploying the bipod, getting prone, dialing for elevation, focusing the parallax, getting on target, and chambering a round in less than 30sec. Using the same or similar scope for training and hunting is a major benefit. At this stage I only hunt with ffp, as I utilize it for all tactical shooting.
 
Much of Athlon's better scope offerings are new to the market. I became a dealer in March primarily due to the excellent quality of the Argos BTR scopes. In mid-April I received a Cronus BTR and Midas 1-6x. The Cronus is way better, by factor of 10x, compared to the NF NXS 8-32x I owned in 07. Maybe they got much better? I also owned an NF NXS 2.5-10x which was about as good as there was for an AR-10 in that era. Sold the 8-32x after 5 or 6 mos and kept the 2.5-10x for 6 or 7 years. The optic quality and weight of the NXS were the factors that influenced the almost immediate sale of the 8-32x. I also owned Leupold mk4 4-14x 50mm illum TMR at same time as the 8-32nxs. The optical quality was about the same but the mk4 was half the weight...

In 2012/3, I bought a Vortex Viper PST 4-16 50mm and found it about the same as the Mk4. I thought Vortex was very much a greater value than the MK4 in terms of money and features. Optically, they were about the same. This was NOT an FFP Viper PST, but $500 less than the mk4 or $1k less than the 8-32 nxs; that was a real value...

The Athlon Argos BTRs were on-par with the mk4 and Viper PST. At $370 for the 6-24x 50mm and $390 for the 8-34x 56mm they are in my judgement incredible values on many comparative levels. A day after receiving the Cronus BTR I took two Argos BTR with the Cronus for testing at our local airfield. I have written extensively about the quality of optical performance. Mostly, I concentrated on the 8-34x Argos and the 4.5-29x Cronus and the Argos was superb in all optical respects that I could see, out to 1100 measured yards. The Cronus BTR just kept on performing out to 1600yds which was the barrier to open testing ground that I had. 1100yds of measured asphalt runway gave many good evaluations for mirage and variations. I tested each scope on a Picatinny rail that I adapted to a camera copying bed and then threaded onto a heavy-rated camera tripod.

I have since acquired the new 8-34x Helos which is an upgraded Argos BTR selling at $590, and a 2nd FP Midas 4.5-27x also selling at same price point. Both have HD lens systems, upgraded coatings, Argon gas fill and side-focus parallax turret that also houses battery and reticle illumination dial. Both are excellent scopes, the Helos having a lift-up to adjust turret locking system that's super easy to zero & set a zero-stop spacer.

The optical quality of Athlon product is all excellent and superior to higher end product of Leupold, Burris, Vortex, Zeiss, IOR-Valdada. I have not owned high-end S&B PM II, or Hensoldt, Kahles, or the high-end Leupold Mk series. The Cronus BTR at $1800 street pricing is a 34mm tube that is more like a high-quality spotting scope in terms of optical resolution at distances well over a mile. The 25-1600 marked parallax with lots of extra room for adjustment to infinity is one feature you won't appreciate until you have it. These are entirely crafted by Light Optical Works like the $3200 March Tactical.

The Ares 2.5-15x scopes should be available now, with the 4.5-27x Ares coming in mid-July. These feature 100% LOW lens systems and internal components which are assembled in Athlon's Chinese factory. $800 & $850 respectively. I am very impressed with my 4.5-27x Midas 2nd FP moa scope as a hunting and longrange suitable scopesight. The Helos 8-34x serves as a great value scope for longrange rested shooting. The Cronus BTR is just superb as are all the other scopes from Argos BTR series on up; then when you compare costs, they are just that much more of an opportunity to improve your shooting.

I have owned Zeiss high-end binoculars, a Dialyt 1.5-6x and a number of Leica, Nikon, Canon cameras and lens systems. For years I rationalized that with Mk4, and Vortex PST, I didn't need better optical performance because a rifle scope is first and foremost a sight, not a taking lens. If you've ever used a Twin Lens Reflex camera you know what is special about a "taking lens"... The Leupold mk4s (I still own 5) are good quality scopes, as are the Vortex PST series. I had just received a 6-24x PST FFP before I got my first Athlon Argos BTRs. I sold my Vortex and moved the Leupolds to lesser spots in the gun quiver. The Helos and Midas series are really Great Values. No reason to think the Ares won't be very close to its 34mm tubed cousin, the Cronus BTR.

And yes! USA Warranty Servicecenter in Olath KS. Lifetime Warranty for any cause that transfers 100% to whomever later owns the scope. If i sound "biased" here, it is only because it is my goal to bring the best features and performance to those I might work with. That my "bias" also results in saving you a lot of money is just one more advantage in your corner. Compare to Athlon before you buy and then see for yourself.
 
You better let several optics mfg know that as well :D
Or find out more about "High Density" lens elements, like many mfg's list as features to there optics.
Join in when you have something substantial to say. What you are referring to is ED glass… not HD. HD is a measure of image resolution, as in HD TV. You can find "high density":rolleyes: glass in a syringe shield:eek: It's all about perception of the American market and money making advertising.

Edit: What comes next? Corning's Gorilla glass? Sapphire glass used by Apple in their smartphones and tablets? Canon's UD glass? We have no way of knowing what type of elements are actually in the scope, nor by whom those elements are made.
 
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As I stated, Donovan... marketing hype to attract the gullible Americans.
Point is, often the abbreviation HD in optics does not stand for Hi-Def like your mistaken by (like in HD TV's). Several optic company's use it to mean High Density lens, in there model description and/or as a feature, that is no different then using the abbreviation ED. There is also optic company's that use "Hi-Def" in there descriptions (Nightforce for example) and/or HD Coatings (Bushnell for example) in there descriptions. All of which by your input is simple marketing hype, that I disagree with and consider feature description.
 
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