Cheapest annealing machine???

[Rock Knocker]

I understand that but then more heat ends up down at the head.

 

[FroggyOne2]

Understand that too.. which is why i would like to see one in person first and test it..

 

[Rock Knocker]

I asked in the other anealing thread if anyone used MAPP gas for its higher temps just for this reason.

But its also hard to judge a flames BTU's from a picture

A round burner device like this would be perfect if you could get some kind of timed device to raise a case into the flame, you wouldnt have to worry about something to spin the case.

 

[CatShooter]

I asked in the other annealing thread if anyone used MAPP gas for its higher temps just for this reason.

But its also hard to judge a flames BTU's from a picture

A round burner device like this would be perfect if you could get some kind of timed device to raise a case into the flame, you wouldn't have to worry about something to spin the case.

I bought one of these some years ago. It was poorly made and the flames were not even. It is in the bottom of a box somewhere in my loading space.

I bought one of the Hornady kits and it is really neat - easy to use and perfect anneals. Cases look like Lapua anneals... I can do 200 cases an hour with it.

 

[Rock Knocker]

I havent given the Hornady system much consideration just because i thought it was very simular to what i am already doing. Maybe I am overlooking something simple.

With the Hornady kit do you templaq all of your cases?


Giving this thread more consideration, what i really am looking for: 1) Is a method of inserting the brass into the same section of flame and inserting the brass the same depth into that flame. 2) Is a reliable way of timing how long the brass stays into the flame.

Before i was thinking more of a mechanical device with a timer connected to it, but now for money and simplicity sake I am thinking of a seperate timer but something I can mount a torch on with an adjustible stopper that i can hold a drill up to and spin the brass. I would like to time a couple pieces of brass with tempilaq then just reset a timer for the rest. I have also noticed that where in the torch flame i put the brass in can make a considerable difference in how long it takes to see a slight glow, so i would like to have that repeatable. I will have to buy a timer and monkey around with some stuff in the garage to see what i can come up with.

 

[CatShooter]

I havent given the Hornady system much consideration just because i thought it was very simular to what i am already doing. Maybe I am overlooking something simple.

With the Hornady kit do you templaq all of your cases?


Giving this thread more consideration, what i really am looking for: 1) Is a method of inserting the brass into the same section of flame and inserting the brass the same depth into that flame. 2) Is a reliable way of timing how long the brass stays into the flame.

Before i was thinking more of a mechanical device with a timer connected to it, but now for money and simplicity sake I am thinking of a separate timer but something I can mount a torch on with an adjustable stopper that i can hold a drill up to and spin the brass. I would like to time a couple pieces of brass with tempilaq then just reset a timer for the rest. I have also noticed that where in the torch flame i put the brass in can make a considerable difference in how long it takes to see a slight glow, so i would like to have that repeatable. I will have to buy a timer and monkey around with some stuff in the garage to see what i can come up with.

I didn't use the Templaq, because I was familiar with annealing and didn't need it - but it is included in the kit for those that need to get started.

Using a mechanical timer is not practical, because the time involved is so short (3 or 4 seconds).. plus, once you have done a few, you will be so fast at it, it is a waste of time to play with one more piece of "stuff" on your bench (unless you have a lot of time on your hands).

 

[jonbearman]

Did you see the annealer for 300.00 on the classifieds.

 

[tooter]

Interesting commentary on this thread!

With all due respect and not to sound sarcastic, those looking for a science project ought to consider a precise timed, induction annealing setup.

Tooter

 

[Rock Knocker]

This could be a good time for me to learn some electronic skills.

Any one have an old plug in drill for sale?

 

[Minesweeper3433]

Just an idea but what if you mounted that 360 degree torch onto the top of an old single stage press with no die in it and mounted your case holder sideways. Then you just place shell in holder run up and when done run down and push out with new case and insert new case you could set it full time on one an old herters or something and never take it down. sort of like a single stage anealling machine. plus you could still screw in dies and use as regular although dont ask me to mount a torch on my coaxle.

 

[mdavis78102]

The Brass-o-Matic machine is the most universal and about the easiest to operate. One model anneals everything from .204 to 50 BMG.


I have one for sale. Here's the link.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php/topic,3767558.0.html

 

[Rock Knocker]

Mine sweeps has got a good idea going, you would just need to find a good 360 torch.

davis i have looked at your annealer several times. I am trying to find out how to make an annealer without spending hundreds of dollars though.

 

[Minesweeper3433]

How hard would it be to make a torch head that had uniform heating all the way around the neck? I have access to some metal working stuff so I can do the work although I have little-no experience with bending and forming metal.
Figure that a peice of material (brass?) tubing could have holes drilled into it at set distance apart before bending and the bend into shape but how would make the gas exit all the ports evenly so as to have equal flames? mounting would be easy and so would adjusting the height of my ram but the fact that my brass would not rotate would mean that the torch would have to be made very consistent and I cant figure out that part without coming up with a way it wont work. I figure if I put in the effort I whant it to be worth doing. ???

 

[WindSurgeon]

I have the same problem. If you don't anneal evenly you get poor neck tension consistency. My groups went to heck after trying to anneal brass by hand so abandoned it. Another question would be if there is anyone out there that will anneal brass for you for a fee. Send them your brass and they anneal it on state of the art equipment. Anyone know of such a service or would want to start one? I would use it if the price was right.

 

[CJ6]

DJ's Brass (advertises on this site) I believe anneals as well as cleans brass.

 

[Martin52]

I got one of these last month from Todd Kindler at the Woodchuck Den for under $50. It provides a 360 degree ring of very controllable blue flame.

Tooter

I was thinking about purchasing one of these until someone posted a query whether Woodchuck was still in business. I could not verify that direct with Todd since his website has no email address - I am in Australia so would have to enquire via normal mail unless anyone has an email address for him ?

I also read a post saying the holes in the ring can be uneven and not provide consistent heat - this might be an isolated case. In any event it sounds like you're OK with yours.


Martin

 

[ava123]

hey,i did buy an expensive machine, etc. but i found it too time wasting and got out the cases, put one into the drill chuck, turned on the gas blaster, and counted to five, and then dropped into water bath. perfectly good annealling, and easy and cheap as hell.

 

[TheSnake]

hey,i did buy an expensive machine, etc. but i found it too time wasting

The old one for sale? What and how much? No use it just sitting collecting dust.

 

[pikespeakgoat]

.... Another question would be if there is anyone out there that will anneal brass for you for a fee. Send them your brass and they anneal it on state of the art equipment. Anyone know of such a service or would want to start one? I would use it if the price was right.

Might want to look at this: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2623200#Post2623200

 

[Rock Knocker]

Thats a good way of making some extra cash.