Challenge to all of the innovators, tinkerers, and inventive types

[BoydAllen]

In the past I have jury rigged a way to dump powder directly from a powder measure into the pan of a balance type reloading scale, with the pan on the scale....but my solution was less elegant than I would have liked.

Some time after that I came across this video that demonstrates a device that is very elegantly done, but most of us do not have the tools necessary to duplicate it...so my challenge to you is to come up with a way to do this that IS within the reach of most of us in terms of the materials and tools required.

Step 1 watch the video:

 

[ireload2]

It looks like a good project for a plastic parts printer

 

[MFR]

Yes, that's my video. It took a lot of work to get this to work with all powder types. I still use the prototype transfer device for all my loading. I never went through with the patent, because of the cost. I would like to see what others come up with.
Mark

 

[Raythemanroe]

Lee Dipper


Ray

 

[danny]

Lee Dipper


Ray

I use Lee Dippers most of the time when doing short runs, which is usually what I am doing. I dip short loads, toss them right in the pan and trickle each charge off.

Danny

 

[hoz53]

I use Lee Dippers most of the time when doing short runs, which is usually what I am doing. I dip short loads, toss them right in the pan and trickle each charge off.

Danny

Ive got a lee dipper set. How close can you normally get? i dont want to trickle 1 grain or more every time. I can set the powder measure as quick as using the lee slide rule.

 

[hoz53]

In the past I have jury rigged a way to dump powder directly from a powder measure into the pan of a balance type reloading scale, with the pan on the scale....but my solution was less elegant than I would have liked.

Some time after that I came across this video that demonstrates a device that is very elegantly done, but most of us do not have the tools necessary to duplicate it...so my challenge to you is to come up with a way to do this that IS within the reach of most of us in terms of the materials and tools required.

Step 1 watch the video:

So would it be correct to say the challenge is keeping the powder from splashing out of the pan?

 

[BoydAllen]

Yes exactly. If you can do that the rest is easy. Drop in pan, trickle, pour in funnel, return pan to scale...it is a small savings in time from removing the pan from the scale throwing a light charge into the pan and then putting the pan on the scale, trickling, etc., but if you are loading a lot of rounds, it adds up.

 

[ebb]

Use a conventional powder drop and make a pan with higher or angled sides that will catch the powder and not let it splash out.

 

[danny]

Ive got a lee dipper set. How close can you normally get? i dont want to trickle 1 grain or more every time. I can set the powder measure as quick as using the lee slide rule.

I never really quantified how close, and I live with the sometimes big jumps between powder dippers. Basically, after I pick a dipper that is really close, I can in a few loads get a calibrated eyeball to see how much less I need to scoop with the dipper. Usually, I go for the bigger dipper and fill it less rather than to use a small one and have to throw more than one dipper load in the pan. Give it a try once and see. Maybe it will work out ok for you, maybe not. There is more than one way to do it, and if you are comfortable to fall back on setting your thrower up, maybe that is the best way for you. I just happen to use both methods as mood and need dictates.

Danny

 

[micmac]

My guess its just a flat ramp with couple of baffles , no big deal to do and get right with somee trial and error, reason for it being flat is that you have to prevent powder riding it out in multiple layers as the powder roling on top of powder rolling down the ramp can go much faster with much less friction , i guess the trick was to get the spacing right to work with bunch of powder types , you might not need all the finese of his design ,3 D print might work ok but it might be easyer to get it working with bits of flat acrylic glued together like the original.

Honestly , making a ramp 13y ago , patenting and then doing nothing with it is outright daft. Patent law is broken , far too many patents for all sort of shit are issued.

 

[hoz53]

I never really quantified how close, and I live with the sometimes big jumps between powder dippers. Basically, after I pick a dipper that is really close, I can in a few loads get a calibrated eyeball to see how much less I need to scoop with the dipper. Usually, I go for the bigger dipper and fill it less rather than to use a small one and have to throw more than one dipper load in the pan. Give it a try once and see. Maybe it will work out ok for you, maybe not. There is more than one way to do it, and if you are comfortable to fall back on setting your thrower up, maybe that is the best way for you. I just happen to use both methods as mood and need dictates.

Danny

Thanks for that explanation. it makes sense and works for you. its wat a person gets used to. i forget about having the dippers so this reminded me

 

[hoz53]

Yes exactly. If you can do that the rest is easy. Drop in pan, trickle, pour in funnel, return pan to scale...it is a small savings in time from removing the pan from the scale throwing a light charge into the pan and then putting the pan on the scale, trickling, etc., but if you are loading a lot of rounds, it adds up.

 

[hoz53]

My guess its just a flat ramp with couple of baffles , no big deal to do and get right with somee trial and error, reason for it being flat is that you have to prevent powder riding it out in multiple layers as the powder roling on top of powder rolling down the ramp can go much faster with much less friction , i guess the trick was to get the spacing right to work with bunch of powder types , you might not need all the finese of his design ,3 D print might work ok but it might be easyer to get it working with bits of flat acrylic glued together like the original.

Honestly , making a ramp 13y ago , patenting and then doing nothing with it is outright daft. Patent law is broken , far too many patents for all sort of shit are issued.

i think you could make something workable out of plastic pipe at a certain angle mabie with some baffles in it

 

[Richard Coody]

Use a conventional powder drop and make a pan with higher or angled sides that will catch the powder and not let it splash out.

I use a tynol bottle. Drop charge and trickle with my little dandy on a gempro. Then check the charge on another gempro. If they agree i am golden. Faster than using my chargemaster.

Sure do wish someone would come up with a more accurate powder dispenser that didn't cost over a grand

 

[Webster]

i think you could make something workable out of plastic pipe at a certain angle mabie with some baffles in it

Would plastic be a static electric problem. Powder would stick in the tube. No sparks allowed.

 

[hoz53]

Would plastic be a static electric problem. Powder would stick in the tube. No sparks allowed.

that might be true i dont know- The powder measure drop tubes are plastic. Also many powder funnels are plastic

 

[ebb]

What I was trying to say was the pan is the problem, not the powder dispenser. Use what ever powder drop you have and fund a $2 solution not a $300 machine. Beaker out of Pyrex, aluminum film canister, plastic pill bottle ( wipe first with dryer sheet ) or make something.

 

[leatherstocking]

If my plastic funnel gets staticy, I just wash with dish detergent then air dry.

 

[rox]

...so my challenge to you is to come up with a way to do this that IS within the reach of most of us in terms of the materials and tools required.

My solution uses:

• RCBS Powder System Combo
• Milk bottle top
• Gas pipe
• Red Bull can

Works great.