CCI 450 Primers

[22DASHER]

There out there, this was last week at Scheels. Fair price, and they lasted a couple of days. I didn't pick any up as I'm sitting ok

What was their limit?

 

[moondog]

2 boxes, but my buddy brought his wife, went back the next morning too. It ain't great, but it was something.

 

[mashburn82]

Seems to be a lot of private sellers liquidating excess personal items at a huge profit. There are many locals buying “stuff” the instant it’s on a store shelf then posting to GB for the wolves.

That's The reason I no longer will spend any money there. Because it encourages people who have no idea how to reload or use a gun to go make a profit.

And This will drive the market up.

My family are machinist and there is an ammo machine shop they help with. They used to spend a cent per primer, then it went to 4.5 cents and when it hit 14.5 cents a couple months ago they decided to close up shop until it came back to normal.

 

[mashburn82]

I think we just don’t understand ammo an component manufacturing. I guess first, how powder and primers are made. Simply, most powder is made overseas. I think it is real that Covid is having a big impact on that. I’m less clear about primers....I would not be surprised due to their “explosive” nature that they are made overseas or sub components are....

I think we need to know more about how ammunition gets from the QC line at the ammo maker to its final destination.

I’m not sure, but ammo seems like a batch process. Where you build recipe by recipe in some order. Is winter always contract ammo period, spring the time for handgun and match consumer ammo, summer hunting ammo production, fall budget ammo manufacturing, etc? Also, are distributors distributing evenly or are some regions more profitable? Do they owe certain folks first pick of available ammo...Are those folks limiting ammo due to supply chain issues? What I mean is are big box stores filling warehouses to allow them to pack trucks full and give supply chain a chance to fill up? Remember, a retailers goal is to be efficient in supply chain and retail....not to fulfill customer demand. Holding back actually raises prices until demand drops off at a higher price will help them reestablish stock at a higher price.

I don’t know, just trying to reassemble evidence and thoughts from last time...

Covid definitely has an impact on our shipping. we are having to rely on 4 companies to make our primer. And with remington gone and vista not starting it back up for another year kills is even more.

I posted above how crazy the mark up is for buying primers for ammo manufactures.

I think we are in this ride for a good 2 more years.

 

[biggun2869]

I've bought a bunch of them for a penny apiece. I don't even remember the year of the 1st crunch I went trough. Long before computers were even thought of. Its always the hoarders. Personally I was one that wanted to load up but my local gunshop owner explained to me what was going on and the problem disappeared, then I stocked up. By the way that has been a long time ago but I don't remember a price hike after the drought was over. Gary

 

[newbieshooter]

And with remington gone and vista not starting it back up for another year kills is even more....

According to the earnings call - sounded like Remington operations have already started up to some degree....

 

[jelenko]

According to the earnings call - sounded like Remington operations have already started up to some degree....

Vista said they expected to start production in March and that the Remington primer operation would be 'accreative' [what a word!] in the 1st quarter. I read that as they are expecting to ship some primers by the end of March.

 

[AckleymanII]

Hornady needs to get in the business of making primers.