Case head separation case removal

[jsthntn247]

Well, guess there is a first time for everything. After over 10k handloads I have some old worn out brass that I knew was gone but shot anyway. I had a complete cases head separation and now have a case in the chamber with no way to extract (pulled the cases head out). It's a 223 what do I need to do.

 

[skiutah02]

http://www.sinclairintl.com/reload/...ell-extractor-223-broken-shell-extractor.aspx

 

[LRPV]

Run a rod out the muzzle, screw on a bronze brush and pull it back through. Pretty good chance it'll dislodge it.

 

[jds holler]

Heck, usually just sticking a bore brush on your cleaning rod, inserting and twisting will pull it out. jd

 

[savagedasher]

Try a over size brush that is tight in the chamber push it in the case when it all the way in It cold pull out with the resistance of the brush in reverse . If that don't work try some penetrate oil and this time use a drop rod from the front . Larry

 

[jimbires]

I ran into this a few months ago . I posted about it on the Nosler forum . a few other guys gave their process for removing these cases too . hope this helps . Jim


https://forum.nosler.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35285

 

[Ggmac]

Use a military style case extractor available almost everywhere for less than $20 .

 

[jsthntn247]

I ran a stiff 308 brush up from the rear and tapped it out from the muzzle end. Thanks for helping me through this.

 

[1lnbrdg]

Worst comes to worst, friend of mine has a male pipe taps brazed onto a T-handle for both .223 and .308 sized cases that will thread into the stuck case. Slickest thing I've seen.

 

[fguffey]

I have cause the weak to pass out and the strong get dizzy; the inside of the case, from the rear is tapered, I have used starter taps, the starter tap turns as many as 5 turns before making a full cut. I screw the tap into the case and drive it out the back from the front. More times than not the case will turn when the tap cuts meaning the case and tap will simply fall out.

F. Guffey

 

[fguffey]

Does working the brass a lot tend to stretch the cases and thins the web area causing it to separate?

The quote above is from the other new forum, it is a question that will not be answered, something like the questions about donuts and bump as in "I bump".

F. Guffey

 

[jsthntn247]

The quote above is from the other new forum, it is a question that will not be answered, something like the questions about donuts and bump as in "I bump".

F. Guffey

This brass has been measured every firing with a case gauge and set back 1.5 thou only. Gonna have to check my gauge to my chamber, should not have this happen after 4-5 firings.

 

[LRPV]

This brass has been measured every firing with a case gauge and set back 1.5 thou only. Gonna have to check my gauge to my chamber, should not have this happen after 4-5 firings.

If it will fit in there, try firing a case 2-3 times without bumping it back and measure it for length. 1 firing generally will give you a short measurement. If this is on a semi auto platform, you may be experiencing some premature extraction with it like on an AR with the bolt opening while there is still pressure on the case and this will stretch the case even more.

 

[XTR]

I was going to suggest the brush trick, you figured that out.


I carry broken case extractors for both 308 and 223 in my range box.

I've had to use the 308 once during a match.

 

[Mozella]

I had this problem with my .223 F/TR bolt gun last year. I tried everything I thought might work without taking a risk of damaging the chamber walls. Nothing worked including the cheap extractor followed by the much more expensive extractor, various brushes, etc etc.

The answer was a chunk of chamber casting metal. I pushed a patch in from the muzzle end until it was 1/4" ahead of the broken case neck. Then I filled the chamber with the molten metal. It becomes liquid with an ordinary heat gun, which is nice. After waiting the prescribed time for the metal to harden and then shrink (the directions are on the package), I drove the slug out with a rod and it brought the broken case with it.

The casting metal procedure is safe (if you don't spill it on your bare foot) and effective.

 

[NorCalMikie]

Broken case extractors. Get one for each caliber you shoot. Keep them in you range bag/box.
Don't go shooting without them.

 

[Dos XX]

I bump donuts.

 

[jsthntn247]

I bump donuts.

Please explain and no pictures will be necessary.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Plug the bore in front of the chamber, then pour the chamber, with the case in there, about 2/3 full of this and let it cool. Then just tap it right out.
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...y-1-lb-cerrosafe-sku080-027-100-384-1744.aspx

video

 

[jds holler]

One of my most loved rifles is a Win. Model 43 bolt gun in 218 Bee. Bee brass is getting pretty rare and spendy, so I generally shoot them until they fail. This might sound shocking to some of ya, but this isn't exactly a maximum pressure cartridge, and I've never had the least problem with either the event of detonation, or extracting the remainder of the separated case. I've never had one that was difficult to remove.

I've removed the case easily with a screw driver long enough to enter through the receiver with bolt removed. Simply press against the shoulder and turn to spin the case, and it will usually fall out. I imagine that a less tapered case might be more difficult. jd