carbon cleaner

[guidom]

Dave, you can order direct from Kano Labs. A quart can is about $15.50.

 

[lpreddick]

i just had to chime in on this one. my early education was in organic chemistry. started shooting MANY years ago and tried just about every cleaning agent out there with varying results, of course. kept reading about homemade cleaners, starting with ed's red and it's clones. felt i could come up with something as good. i mixed and mixed and mixed all combos of just about all cleaning chemicals i could get and got one that worked pretty good, or so i thought. they were all organic and ALL HIGHLY FLAMMABLE AND POTENTIALLY TOXIC TO ALL MY ORGANS! there was almost always that little streak of carbon at the juncture of the land and groove that only came out with a bronze brush and stroking, etc. read about a "gel" on another site and it really would get at the "carbon". i'v been using this stuff for several months now and i am impressed! i suspect that most residue from propellant burning is not a complex organic chemical, but a more simple structure and might respond to a less complex organic solvent. black powder residue responds to a simple "solution" of soapy water. this "gel" is 2 parts of a black powder cleaner(original was hoppe's. i now use t/c no 17 black powder solvent) and 1 part hoppe's no 9 solvent. mix and shake and it "gels". add a little more hoppe's no 9 to thin to your preference...flows slightly thick onto a patch. i squirt several ccs into my bore and let sit for 10 min. push a saturated patch thru and the stuff coming out the muzzle is BLACK! several more and those very linear streaks of carbon are gone and the borescope doesn't lie...CLEAN! some of this ease of cleaning may have to do with my bores now are treated with Dynamic Finishes bore treatment which allows for easier cleaning...another topic.

 

[Romulus]

I'm not part of any borescope club but KG-1 works very well for removing carbon. Maybe someone could try it with the camera sometime.

 

[rogn]

I would give the company a call and see whom there distributors are.

Just buy direct from them. If quantity is an issue try to get a group buy together.

 

[rogn]

After reading this thread yesterday, I got wondering about something simple. So I gave a quick non scientific trial. I had some 2000 carbon Killer so I tried it on the front of a SS cylinder and it got some stuff off. Then i tried and energetic rub with some 91% isopropyl alcohol on a piece of cotton drill. Well, the "ouchahol" won that contest hands down. Didnt try any of the touted commercial cleaners of which I have a large box full of. Most of these things contain substances known to be bad for living things. I have enough things affecting my "living status" that use as little of them as necessary. The alcohol really cleaned things a lot but not totally. What surprised me was the 2000 carbon Killer had done well in the past on things like AR pieces, but the alcohol did better. Got to give it a try in one of the rifle bores, just gotta make sure things are dry and oily after the solvent alcohol. Wonder if 95% would be more effective.

 

[ljmontano]

https://www.primalrights.com/library/articles/evolution-barrel-cleaning

 

[370bc]

https://www.primalrights.com/library/articles/evolution-barrel-cleaning

i will be going this route, when I get my rig back later on this year. Greg has some good ideas. I would like one of the rifles he sells for coyote hunting. Bull pup design.

 

[LarryDScott]

I used CLR, and followed up w/a borescope. I couldn't tell it did anything. LDS

FORUM Boss: We strongly caution against use of CLR in barrels for multiple reasons.

 

[centershot]

What is wrong with Kroil?

 

[Mark W]

What is wrong with Kroil?

Just the smell!

 

[JRS]

What is wrong with Kroil?

Kroil is a penetrating oil, and it works just fine as such. It isn't going to clean out carbon any more than Marvel Mystery Oil will.

 

[dcali]

I haven't tried this in a barrel, but Piston Kleen does wonders on an AR bolt carrier group, and is odor-free, green, no hazmat, etc. The catch is it takes a long time. You might have to fill the barrel, and leave it for a few hours. But it works like a charm. The carbon just turns to a sort of sludge, and you wipe/rinse it off.

 

[T-shooter]

A product that seemed to do well is Thorroclean. More info in this post.
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/thorroclean-bore-cleaning-system.3949315/

 

[johara1]

I also tried CLR, and it did nothing..... jim

FORUM Boss: We strongly caution against use of CLR in barrels for multiple reasons.

 

[Willie]

I just "hawkeyed" a friend's 7 RUM that he had been cleaning with a foam cleaner. He assured me it was clean, patches showed nothing, but his groups were opening up. The scope showed heavy carbon from throat to muzzle, in grooves & lands.

I figured this would be a good test case to retry the CLR. Wet patches and bronze brushing showed grey patches, just as it had in a previous tests. Perhaps, a long soaking and repeated brushing might have worked, IDK.

After patching dry, the scope showed no real change. Now was the chance to try the newly purchased Ed's Red. I ran a couple of wet patches, letftf sit about 5 minutes and ran a wet, new bronze brush 6 strokes. After 5 minutes, the first 3 patches were black. I dried and scoped the bore, the only carbon left was in the groove edges. Repeated the steps once more and no trace of carbon. I then used BT copper cleaner on a BT brush to finish up. Another thing I noticed was all the softened carbon on his brake, it came right off with Q-tips. My initial use of the Ed's Red was eye opening.

 

[johara1]

I may give it a try, where did you get it....jim

 

[Willie]

I may give it a try, where did you get it....jim

Brownells, just to see if it works.