CANNED HUNTS

[jonbearman]

What do we see of canned hunts taking place from new york to texas and back. I see preserves with real ferral animals taken by luck or chance as an alternative to kick em out of the barn under heavy sedation a much better thing. When I saw a film on these nitwits selling hunts that amount to,go to the containment area and wait,then shoot a travisty. What do you all think.

 

[CJ6]

They are what they are. They make money for the Owner and a QUICK Guaranteed kill for the hunter/shooter who either has NO time or has a disability that may prevent a more traditional hunt.

 

[K22]

Those kind of hunts do not appeal to me. I like the thrill of hunting an animal on it's own terms in a natural fair chase environment but I don't oppose those who take part in "canned" hunts. We need more shooters and hunters so as long as they are safe and legal - live and let live is my philosphy.

With that said, feral hogs are starting to become a problem in PA. The source of the hogs is believed to be those escaping from game preserves. Once out, they multiply and wreak havoc on the environment. It's a difficult issue since the owner's of these preserves have invested a lot of money in their properties and depend on these hunts for their livelihoods. The Game Commission is studying the issue and formulating a plan to deal with these very destructive pests.

 

[5spd]

Like most others I am not a fan of canned hunts as I enjoy the chase & stalk where the game could dissappear till next season and not just to the other side of the fenced ranch/hunt area.
I also feel it has its place, but not my place.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I agree, if you don't have time or can't hunt you don't make the kill. Thats NATURE.

 

[fredhorace77]

Those kind of hunts do not appeal to me. I like the thrill of hunting an animal on it's own terms in a natural fair chase environment but I don't oppose those who take part in "canned" hunts. We need more shooters and hunters so as long as they are safe and legal - live and let live is my philosphy.

With that said, feral hogs are starting to become a problem in PA. The source of the hogs is believed to be those escaping from game preserves. Once out, they multiply and wreak havoc on the environment. It's a difficult issue since the owner's of these preserves have invested a lot of money in their properties and depend on these hunts for their livelihoods. The Game Commission is studying the issue and formulating a plan to deal with these very destructive pests.

they will waste alot of money trying to figure out how to eliminate hogs...basically aside from an extremely bad virus striking the entire population..nothing will get rid of them...start hunting them and have fun..but id be suprised if they ever get rid of them...unless they start with and extreme attack plan from the first sighting or mention of a hog loose...

 

[Larryh128]

1st, not all fenced places are the same. When you fence 120 acres, it's strictly a shoot, when the fenced area is sections, it's a whole different deal. 1000 acres or more is a hunt & the critters are going to be about the wildest you've seen because they are hunted for months. I don't hunt fenced places but I have participated in cull shoots and I can tell you that it's very hard to see a monster buck although there are dozens of them. Small deer & bucks up to about 140 B & C are easy to see because there are more of them than in unfenced areas. 170 + bucks get that way by not being seen, same as in the unfenced areas. I can tell you that most people leave with a smaller deer than they hoped to shoot. Almost all of the huge bucks are shot chasing during the rut.

 

[.260 james]

The biggest problem I see with so-called canned hunts is the t.v shows on various networks. A large percentage of the shows on t.v. are videoed on some type of pay to shoot ranch. Then these are portayed as a real world hunt of sorts . After the average hunter views these shows and are brainwashed by the whole show being an advertisement, they assume the hunter on the show is just that much better then the average Joe and the equipment he needs to do it right is all advertised to him while he is feeling inadequate. These hunts tend to be way to results orientated and the true Spirit of "The Hunt" is lost.

 

[Larryh128]

I would agree with 260 James, probably IMHO the best show out there is "on Your Own Adventures" . The guy draws tags & goes after it (on public land )with a buddy camping in a tent & sometimes comes up empty. Great show as it showcases all of the normal pitfalls that Joe average runs into without a guide or ranch to hunt on.

 

[chino1969]

Unless you are handicapped, I just can't get behind canned hunts. If you are too lazy or elite to get out and properly hunt an animal, you should pick another sport. That's just me but I believe one should develop an understanding and respect for the critter one is going to hunt. That only comes from putting your time in tracking, observing and stalking your quarry.

 

[.260 james]

With that said, feral hogs are starting to become a problem in PA. The source of the hogs is believed to be those escaping from game preserves. Once out, they multiply and wreak havoc on the environment. It's a difficult issue since the owner's of these preserves have invested a lot of money in their properties and depend on these hunts for their livelihoods. The Game Commission is studying the issue and formulating a plan to deal with these very destructive pests.

I wish the Pigs were a problem there when i lived there...... The thought of pig hunting without a limit sure sounds better then the deer hunting I used to do in the north east corner of the state. The last 2 yrs. i hunted there i didn't see enuff deer to get all excited about.
P.S. the pigs will do less damage in the long run the the new found gas industry will!

 

[Cowboy Tom]

Being born and raised in the PNW, I can't imagine doing a canned hunt. If you want to shoot something just go down to the range and ding some steel. Maybe I have some strange ideas but to me, the hunt is in the hunt!. The shooting is when the work starts. I can't help but think this phenomenon is the result of cable TV where it's all about the numbers (i.e. 170 buck.....) where the number is more important than anything else. I wonder what the canned hunt guys would think if they quit watching TV and developed their own opinions for why they hunt. Might change their perspective a little.

 

[K22]

With that said, feral hogs are starting to become a problem in PA. The source of the hogs is believed to be those escaping from game preserves. Once out, they multiply and wreak havoc on the environment. It's a difficult issue since the owner's of these preserves have invested a lot of money in their properties and depend on these hunts for their livelihoods. The Game Commission is studying the issue and formulating a plan to deal with these very destructive pests.

I wish the Pigs were a problem there when i lived there...... The thought of pig hunting without a limit sure sounds better then the deer hunting I used to do in the north east corner of the state. The last 2 yrs. i hunted there i didn't see enuff deer to get all excited about.
P.S. the pigs will do less damage in the long run the the new found gas industry will!

Me too - would love to hunt them except the Game Commission is trying to sort out whether these animals are covered by game laws or domestic animal laws.

 

[Glenn Powell]

Canned hunts are here to stay, sad to say, they have been going on for a lot longer then cable TV, or even radio for that matter. Personally I would not even conceder going on one. Boon&Crockett dose not allow fenced game into the books, but I think they have a new category just for farmed game. If these guys want to spend $8000+ to go and shoot fish in a barrel let em, means that there will be fewer people hunting public land, which means better hunting for those if us who actually "hunt". I did a search once for exotic game in Texas, found a gemsbok hunt for $10,000, I could fly to Africa, hunt for seven days, take 7 critters, including gemsbok, for 10g's. So in conclusion, let them throw there money away, I'm going to Africa to do it right.

 

[jonbearman]

I saw a show where they actually sedate the animals with tranquilizer guns and syringes. I was sickened by this behavior and it should be outlawed. + it showed guys shooting animals 50 feet from the barn and were clearly unafraid of humans. Completely unacceptable. Game farms where you hunt on 2 square miles is better,but not my idea of a real hunt.

 

[Trapper243]

"Canned Hunts" to me is a little bit like the label "Saturday Night Special"or "Assault weapon". Some guns may be junk, and some hunts may not be my idea of fair chase, but the label will be painted with a wide swath by the HSUS in order to end all hunting. They really don't care if you hiked ten miles and took a backcountry Muley that most of us would consider fair chase, or killed an exotic on a fenced ranch. Right now they are pushing a bill to outlaw the use of hounds on bear and bobcat in Ca. one of the arguments being its not fair chase. I have seen some antis claim "Telescopic sights" and such are not fair also. No skill in making a long shot. Then claim bowhunting is to inefficient and inhumane. I am not using their label. It is a slippery slope. The next thing you know we will not be able to use domestically reared game birds to train bird dogs.

 

[dan06]

I agree with Trapper. I have heard all kinds of hunters comment about another way to hunt. I believe this leaves all of us open to attack. Some don't like dogs, some don't care for baits, some think that the rich land owners with all their ability to manage land and food plots shouldn't be able to sell the game (guide hunts) . Hunters that kill for meat are chastized by trophy hunters because the shoot game before it becomes a real trophy and the meat hunters whine about the guys that only hunt for trophys and not for the meat. Then the guy who has a lot to say about something like PD hunting....They don't make much of a trophy and I haven't heard of any one eating them.

The area, terrain, game bird-animal, and our economics usually dictate how we hunt. If hunters don't stick togeather the anti hunters and government will dictate how we all hunt.