Guess I won't ever be able to wrap my head around scoped service rifles. Sucks that the scope (march or nightforce) cost twice much as the entire rifle plus some. John Hollinger at White Oak has 2 models made by Leupold $450 and $650 that show promise. I'm just not ready to spend, mount and all, 2100 or 2400 dollars. That being said, ALL of the top shooters use them. If you're gonna be competitive you better get one.
Guess I won't ever be able to wrap my head around scoped service rifles. Sucks that the scope (march or nightforce) cost twice much as the entire rifle plus some. John Hollinger at White Oak has 2 models made by Leupold $450 and $650 that show promise. I'm just not ready to spend, mount and all, 2100 or 2400 dollars. That being said, ALL of the top shooters use them. If you're gonna be competitive you better get one.
Its still shaking out. So far the two that have risen to the top are a Nightforce fixed 4X with fixed 200yd parallax that was built specifically for SR competition. $1950
And a March 1-4.5X with parallax adjustment. Also built specifically for SR competition. Street price around $2250.
So far the Leupold offerings have been hit or miss on whether they will withstand the knob turning a Service Rifle shooter does.
The Viper PST has been showing some promise.
Valdada is supposedly coming out with an offering that may be good.
That's not true. I recall people winning with off the shelf BM NM rifles and I recall one kid winning with a Colt chrome lined barrel. It doesn't take much to screw together a rifle capable of winning for under $1,000.I doubt that you can buy a competitive AR for $1200, you can't.
That's not true. I recall people winning with off the shelf BM NM rifles and I recall one kid winning with a Colt chrome lined barrel. It doesn't take much to screw together a rifle capable of winning for under $1,000.
Marty Dabney was using a Burris scope.
I don't recall the names.When did they do this? Tom Krawzokauf used a Bushnell.
I remember a marine winning the SR title at Perry with a $200-ish Wilson barrel years ago. Still makes me smile
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The issue is SR was a gateway. A guy could come in and be competitive, especially a local events, for about $1500, coated, mat, etc. All in. That ship just sailed.
Honestly, I don't care for scopes SRs, but if they were going to "do it right" and train like an issued rifle they'd force shooters to use an ACOG, ELCAN, 4x magnifier on a red dot, etc.
Totally agree here. Most of my friends started with garands or/and M1A's before moving to other disciplines. Some of us continued XTC and then moved to AR's. My SR is a Rock River lower w/ their 2 stage trigger and a Hollinger upper.....nothing fancy. Those 2 pieces can be bought for $1200 today and in the right hands will win national matches. I've never touched/adjusted the trigger on my lower. Recently, I replaced my worn out barrel with a Shilen from John only because he was out of the Wilsons that was originally on the upper. Shot a 482/500 last weekend with it and frankly, had it not start raining on me and getting very dark during slow prone I think I could have done better.
Point is, as said above, we need a gateway sport for shooters to get involved in. $3500 service rifles is not a good answer for gateway, recreational shooters or juniors