Bullet set back in carry gun

[brokeasajoke]

So while getting ready for church this morning I swapped my 9mm ammo out of my Kahr CW9 that gets carried a lot. I unload this pistol every time I carry it unless I'm going out multiple times with it a day. I unload it and place it high out of sight and place the ammo in a separate place just in case. My kids are older and I fully trust them, but better safe than sorry. Anyway I noticed this ammo I have carried a while seems to be set back a lot. Should I shoot them or pull them? Thoughts on pressure? These are factory and not my reloads. Yes I have let these go for a while now and I should not let my life or my family's depend upon these. Top of pic is replacement. I need to keep a closer eye on my carry.

 

[Shawnba67]

I don't think on the 2 at least that the risk is worth the reward. Even at current ammo prices

 

[edwardware]

I unload this pistol every time I carry it

More to the point, you load the ammo, repeatedly, over and over and over. You should stop doing that.

In the rare cases when you must repeatedly load the same cartridge, you should ease the cartridge in from the magazine to reduce setback.

You should not shoot the cartridges with visual setback; that's too much.

 

[FeMan]

In pistols, pressures can climb very quickly with lower OAL. I would not shoot these and be concerned about how/why you are getting this set back.

 

[mikeinct]

Use this day & the day we Fall back to reg time as a marker. Minimum twice a year dump the old mag filled w ammo & put in fresh from the same lot. Give your carry gun a nice cleaning too. Every week the action should be tended to. Don't let even lint or dust accumulate in the action /holster.

 

[brokeasajoke]

One thing I have to do is bump the slide with my hand to get it to lock or let the spring do the work. The chamber must be tightish and has never give me any trouble thus far wheb firing. I normally drop one in the chamber and let the slide take it home and not load from the mag anymore. Maybe this is bad practice. I'm never to old to learn.

 

[whatsupdoc]

What set the bullets back?
Were these in the magazine and the pistol was fired?
What brand of ammo is that?

I would contact the MFG and would not use that brand of ammo to carry.

 

[Lone Hunter]

My friend who is into pistols much more than I said to only chamber a round 2-3 times at most. He said when you work the slide and the pressure of the bullet rubbing against the feed ramp seats the bullet deeper in the case each time and will result in a lot of pressure. After he chambers his twice he shoots them. I know on pistols seating depth has a lot to do with pressure. I don’t know if he is right or wrong but it makes sense on seating depth. There is no way I will unload my carry weapon after every carry which is daily. Also, I will not chamber a round inside of my home for fear of an accidental discharge.

 

[NETim]

If in doubt, do without.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch instructs his students to not chamber a carry round more than twice, as some degree of bullet set-back will indeed occur. Actual experience has verified this, and I heed his advice, as this man has always been spot-on in regard to carry weapons and their use.

No kids in the house, so my carry gun gets put in my sock drawer upon returning home, cocked 'n locked for weeks at a time until the chambered round is fired during practice just to make room for the next fresh factory round. Better to just leave it that way, no wear on springs either. But I never, ever put a round in the chamber and let the slide fly home, as extractor damage will eventually occur.

 

[dfrosch]

A friend that is a retired DEA agent told me a story a while back. They had a rash of unexplained catastrophic ammo failures. The investigation showed that, in every case, the suspect ammo had been chambered multiple times. After a while, the combustion chamber had reduced to the point that the powder charge was way over pressure.

Either toss those rounds, or use a mallet type bullet puller and reseat the bullet to the original length.

If you feel you have to unload and reload, don't chamber a round from the magazine. Drop it in the chamber, close the slide, then insert the magazine. This might be hard on your extractor.

 

[gambleone]

So while getting ready for church this morning I swapped my 9mm ammo out of my Kahr CW9 that gets carried a lot. I unload this pistol every time I carry it unless I'm going out multiple times with it a day. I unload it and place it high out of sight and place the ammo in a separate place just in case. My kids are older and I fully trust them, but better safe than sorry. Anyway I noticed this ammo I have carried a while seems to be set back a lot. Should I shoot them or pull them? Thoughts on pressure? These are factory and not my reloads. Yes I have let these go for a while now and I should not let my life or my family's depend upon these. Top of pic is replacement. I need to keep a closer eye on my carry.

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What factory loads are these???

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Id never unload a carry pistol except with the trigger. A kahr is top quality stuff and wont hurt to leave loaded. I unload my K9 and p380 once a year with the trigger then reload fresh. If you store the ammo out of reach just find a spot to hide the whole loaded combo

 

[JMayo]

I want a full stack and one in the pipe.
Drop the round in first then put in mag.

I've never seen bought ammo that didn't have a crimp... Those don't look crimped.

 

[gambleone]

I want a full stack and one in the pipe.
Drop the round in first then put in mag.

I've never seen bought ammo that didn't have a crimp... Those don't look crimped.

It sure doesn't look crimped. Like to know what brand that is.

 

[JMayo]

Good way to bust the extractor. Semi-auto round should always be fed from the mag. That bump is you forcing the extractor over the rim of the cartridge. The case rim slides under the extractor when the slide picks up the round from the mag. So, DON'T DO THAT.

Disagree ... Common practice. Never heard of any problem in a quality pistol .

But hey I'm not one to take a stand that
" i know " in absolutes.

 

[whatsupdoc]

Maybe its ammo and or pistol specific, but chambered a CCI Blazer 9mm 20 times in a CZ75 from
a loaded mag and no setback.

 

[mousegunner]

When I duty carried I never cleared my weapon off duty, it was always ready to go but safely secured. Every 3 months we had to qualify and ammo in the magazines was shot up and replaced with new ammo.

When I did clear the weapon for some reason the ejected round was inspected and then set aside even if it looked good. These rounds were later used for practice. Since our ammo came from the lowest bid and in the initial issue there was a lot of new ammo with set back right out of the box I never chambered a round more than once but that's just me.

It was enough that I had to think of what to do in case 2 springs broke on the Berreta 96D (which they did in practice) I didn't want to also think my bullets had set back cause I loaded them more than once.

 

[Migolito]

Your 'storage' technique is gonna get you killed. Every time you chamber the round it gets 'set back'. You load, carry unload, reload, etc multiple times a day-hundreds of times a year(?). Thats really bad practice/technique. One day you're gonna need that first round to go bang, and it will fail. IF you carry for defense, and the point of needing that round is to save your life, and the round fails you, you're dead.
So, with respect, you're asking the wrong question. The 'fix' for the set back isn't a new round, or what manufacture the round is, or rotating your rounds. It's getting a small pistol safe to place your pistol in when you aren't carrying it. Come in the door, put the loaded pistol in the safe and be done with it. Shoot those factory rounds every 3 months and don't worry about set back.

 

[brokeasajoke]

Don't remember the ammo brand off hand. This set back is exclusively from chamber multiple times for those asked and NOT from firing. I THINK this is factory reloads like Perfecta or maybe Maxx but I'm not 100%. Haven't shot this pistol in a while nor the remainder of this ammo as you can see.