Bullet seat too deep. Do Hornady bullet puller or RCBS fits on Lee precision press?

[Varmintprecision]

Hi everyone,
Sorry for my english cause my main language is French i am living in Crazy Québec city. hehe
I am a new reloader so today was my first day. I checked every setting on the press followed instruction BUT.
When i measured the OL i was at 2.45-2.5 on 30-30, suppost to be like 2.550. So i readed that it can be dangerous to shoot.
So now i need to buy a bullet puller. I think it's a must cause any error on re-sizing or seating depth (seen too late) will need that.
So my question is : Do Hornady puller or RCBS puller will fit on lee precision press? If someone already did that it would be usefull to me.
I will have to crimp those ammo again cause my first reslut according instruction are mitigated. Another question on 30-30 caliber do i have to set the crimp on canelure(no matter maximum overal lengt)? It is not clear the ''tolerance'' on seating bullet deeper to me. There is not so much reloader where i live so not ez to me to get full info.
Thanks a lot
Mat

 

[RegionRat]

With your situation, it doesn't appear that a collet puller tool will be able to grip the bullet since the bearing surface is already covered by the neck.

I would suggest the kinetic hammer style for now. They are not expensive.

 

[Varmintprecision]

With your situation, it doesn't appear that a collet puller tool will be able to grip the bullet since the bearing surface is already covered by the neck.

I would suggest the kinetic hammer style for now. They are not expensive.

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Ok, so the hornady puller won'T work as i went really too deep. Is there is a better hammer than other(rimless or rimmed cartridge)? And do lyman is a good option or not cause i readed that the do not damage bullet? Tanks again

 

[RegionRat]

De Rien.
The ones that come from the companies that make other reloading products are probably all about the same. I don’t have the Lyman version, but it seems fine based on the advertising.

You may find on this occasion, that a few taps moves that bullet out far enough that you could then seat to the correct length without completely removing the bullet and spilling the contents.

This being a 30-30, it will be okay.

Bon Chance.

 

[SSL]

The RCBS collet style bullet puller will work on Lee presses. Lee uses the same thread size as most press makers. I agree that if you only have a few to pull, the impact style pullers will do just fine. Just be ready for several sharp blows in many cases. Some of those bullets don't move easily. The various collet pullers are far more comfortable to use if you have very many to pull.
And don't worry about your English...most of us native English speakers don't do all that well either!

 

[358WCF]

Another question on 30-30 caliber do i have to set the crimp on canelure(no matter maximum overal lengt)?

Yes. The case mouth will need to be at the cannelure before crimping if you use a roll crimp.

 

[Ringostar]

Before you start pulling bullets. Which bullet are you using, and where did you get the length measurements from? Most 30-30 use a round nose bullet because of being inserted end to end in tubular magazine’s on lever action rifles. The overall length for a round nose bullet might not be correct for a pointed bullet. I also wouldn’t recommend using pointed bullets in a tubular magazine, unless they’re the soft flexible type. Hornady reloading data shows 2.535 oal for their 160 ftx bullet in a 30-30.

 

[Varmintprecision]

Before you start pulling bullets. Which bullet are you using, and where did you get the length measurements from? Most 30-30 use a round nose bullet because of being inserted end to end in tubular magazine’s on lever action rifles. The overall length for a round nose bullet might not be correct for a pointed bullet. I also wouldn’t recommend using pointed bullets in a tubular magazine, unless they’re the soft flexible type. Hornady reloading data shows 2.535 oal for their 160 ftx bullet in a 30-30.

It is FTX bullet, plastic tip. With Covid i was unable to find ''flat tip bullet''. I have interlock that the tip is flat but really small. Hornady say that FTX are ok in tubular magazine... That's why i used them. They are 160 hornady ftx bullet.

 

[PigButtons]

VP, you don't mention what powder and charge weight. Unless you went to the high side of the recommended load for that powder and bullet combo you are within the cartridge length published by the bullet manufacturer. You also don't mention what you are shooting them out of, lever action antique rifle, modern lever action...
More information will help us give informative advice.

 

[Ringostar]

It is FTX bullet, plastic tip. With Covid i was unable to find ''flat tip bullet''. I have interlock that the tip is flat but really small. Hornady say that FTX are ok in tubular magazine... That's why i used them. They are 160 hornady ftx bullet.

Then you’re not loaded short. You also mentioned cannelure, they’re not always positioned for all cartridges. Some are set for 308, but not necessarily correct in a 30-06. So the position might not be right for a 30-30 either, unless the bullet is designed for your cartridge.

 

[rjtfroggy]

Do yourself a favor and at least look at this https://grip-n-pull.com/,
I have tried them all and IMO this is the easiest and best so far.

 

[Varmintprecision]

Then you’re not loaded short. You also mentioned cannelure, they’re not always positioned for all cartridges. Some are set for 308, but not necessarily correct in a 30-06. So the position might not be right for a 30-30 either, unless the bullet is designed for your cartridge.

I used hornady ftx 160 grains bullet with IMR 3031 27gr powder bullet seat +-2.505 some at 2.480 so on hodgon it say col 2.550... My bad..

 

[Varmintprecision]

Do yourself a favor and at least look at this https://grip-n-pull.com/,
I have tried them all and IMO this is the easiest and best so far.

Yeah hehe, since my error i've look many bullet puller. I already bought a ''hammer''. I am still not sure for the others pullers wich one i will buy

 

[asquared19]

If using the hammer style puller, which I agree is very economical and is the only one I own, I would be careful to not fully extract the bullet, but just move beyond your target OAL and then reseat. With those plastic tipped bullets, if you get them to fully eject with the hammer puller, they can dent/damage the tip. I found this out on some ELD-X

 

[slobhunter2]

Put a foam earplug in the bottom of the puller and the bullet won't be damaged.

 

[asquared19]

Put a foam earplug in the bottom of the puller and the bullet won't be damaged.

this is actually a great idea, and I feel stupid for not thinking of it

 

[Varmintprecision]

Before you start pulling bullets. Which bullet are you using, and where did you get the length measurements from? Most 30-30 use a round nose bullet because of being inserted end to end in tubular magazine’s on lever action rifles. The overall length for a round nose bullet might not be correct for a pointed bullet. I also wouldn’t recommend using pointed bullets in a tubular magazine, unless they’re the soft flexible type. Hornady reloading data shows 2.535 oal for their 160 ftx bullet in a 30-30.

Exactly that's why i went too far(deep) at 2.500. I will re-adjust them.

 

[Varmintprecision]

this is actually a great idea, and I feel stupid for not thinking of it

Good idea hehe

 

[okie]

I thought you had to shoot em out and start over????

 

[Varmintprecision]

I thought you had to shoot em out and start over????

You sure ? hahaha