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Buds Gun Shop not making any sense...

Ohio Varmint Shooter

I have been interested in buying a particular shotgun from Buds Gun shop. I have purchased from them before, everything went well.

A few weeks ago, the gun was listed for about $560. Now I see the gun is listed for $733. That's a big jump. The gun is a discontinued model. (It's been updated) The old gun is now MORE expensive than the newer updated model. I sent an email to Buds asking why they had such a large price increase. They responded back saying their prices were updated based on replacement cost. And they are unable to offer the old price. Well, there IS no replacement cost for this...it's a discontinued model. And again, more expensive than the new models.

This doesn't make any sense. It's like last year's model car. Who would pay MORE for it?

Does anyone have a contact at Buds? Someone who actually has some common sense and who's world isn't run buy a computer. I understand some employees don't have the authority to discuss and/or alter prices...but this is just odd.

I'm interested in buying the gun at the old price, but not the new one.
 
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I have run into this before, but not at gun shops, yet. What happens is that the vendor cannot buy the same thing, or similar at the old price.. So he charges the new price because he will pay more to replace his inventory.. At least that's how it was splained to me once.
 
Look elsewhere for it. As to the shotgun being upgraded did the manufacturer change? Many times this happens and some want the old ones because they aren't making new.
 
About a month ago, I paid 1450.00 for a "discontinued" Tikka Master Sporter. About a week and a half ago, one went for 1675.00, on gunbroker. Some discontinued guns go up, some go down. Wished I got a few 1903s 30 years ago, when they were 50.00.
 
Buds' is a PIA to deal with. Low price, in this case, = poor service. They don't have to deal with you face to face, so.....
 
CaptainMal said:
I want to buy a new Colt SA 45. Saw one in a catalog for $395.

Called all around. They are discontinued and the few new ones I found are way over a grand. Shucks. Should have bought it back in the 1980's when I got that catalog.
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If you find a way to order the Colt at that price can you order me a 61' A5 20ga mod choke 28" vent rib.
Thanks
 
It is unfortunate, but Bud's has grown over the past few years to the point of requiring customers take numbers at the door before approaching the counter if you go into the store. The online sales reps are dealing with such high numbers of calls that they are just going to offer the take it or leave it price, you either pay it or they will sell to the next caller. Not too far back they had some knowledgeable older sales reps that you could talk with, maybe even work a deal sometimes. Now there are a bunch of younger kids, they have very little actual knowledge, its more of a numbers game now. I stopped going after they threw a fit over the fact that I wanted to have a rifle delivered there instead of buying it through them (it was not going to be available in time for the hunt, if purchased through them). I had no issue paying the transfer fee they had posted on the sign, but had a major issue with the knuckle head behind the counter telling me I should be ashamed for not supporting the local gun shop by buying through them and that he might not agree to accept delivery of my rifle for that reason. I simply told him that over the years I personally have spent thousands there and during my time working for a company that did defense work, we purchased cases and cases of ammo and many rifles. So yeah, Bud's got my support, but they won't anymore. Take your money and spend it elsewhere.
 
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On the road once, a decision was made to varmint hunt with a brother in-law. I pulled in to a gun shop, picked a new Browning A-Bolt BOSS in 223Rem, Nikon's best scope, and 5 boxes of ammo. Paid current retail $$.
The hunt went well, the gun shot good. Afterwards, I ordered an Eclipse stock for it directly from Browning, but it turned out for some reason my action didn't fit the inletting. Browning asked about the serial number and then informed me that my 'new' A-bolt was over 10yrs old. And worse, mine was a bastard model they had put out for only 3 months, due to short supply of short actions. They had milled a long action for it, and not to standard long or short action lengths..

What pee'd me off was that the gun shop knew damn well that was not a new gun. That it was an old unfired gun. Many revisions behind new models,, and certainly not worth current retail price.

Sensitive to this, I've learned of similar practices with scopes..
You buy a new leupold VX-3 over the counter, and you have no idea how old it is (or if it's even a Leupold at all).

When I buy a new gun or scope now, it's straight from the factory or I won't buy it.
 
mikecr said:
On the road once, a decision was made to varmint hunt with a brother in-law. I pulled in to a gun shop, picked a new Browning A-Bolt BOSS in 223Rem, Nikon's best scope, and 5 boxes of ammo. Paid current retail $$.
The hunt went well, the gun shot good. Afterwards, I ordered an Eclipse stock for it directly from Browning, but it turned out for some reason my action didn't fit the inletting. Browning asked about the serial number and then informed me that my 'new' A-bolt was over 10yrs old. And worse, mine was a bastard model they had put out for only 3 months, due to short supply of short actions. They had milled a long action for it, and not to standard long or short action lengths..

What pee'd me off was that the gun shop knew damn well that was not a new gun. That it was an old unfired gun. Many revisions behind new models,, and certainly not worth current retail price.

Sensitive to this, I've learned of similar practices with scopes..
You buy a new leupold VX-3 over the counter, and you have no idea how old it is (or if it's even a Leupold at all).

When I buy a new gun or scope now, it's straight from the factory or I won't buy it.
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Who do you know at the factory to buy guns direct?
 
I've only bought two from their source, as I'm not very excited about factory guns.
Tubb T2K from McMillian Bros, and a nice Cooper M21. Ordered from source & sent to my gun shop for transfer. I would think you could do this with any brand that has a custom shop.
And I've bought four Leupold Mk4s from their custom shop. Not that I needed to, but to be sure I got what I was paying for.

I know someone who ordered a Savage target gun(in 6br) straight from them. Apparently they have a custom shop. It didn't shoot as good as he wanted (with their load). He sent it back, and they returned it with different barrel shooting VERY well. Again, their load. This guy was too lazy to work up a load..
My thinking on that was Savage was too kind
 
Little different experience, but the same result: I noticed I was running low on 32SWL projectiles for my Sport Pistol, so went online to order some. My go-to-supplier has folded (Dardas), so I checked around before going to the backup (Magnus.) I noticed that Buds (who I bought a Toz Free pistol from a couple of years ago) had Speer HBWC's in 32, so ordered a couple thousand to try (have been using button nose solid wads prior.) The next day, I get an email from Buds saying they won't ship ammunition components to users in California - only to an FFL. So I get on the phone and tell them the California FFL thing only applies to ammunition, not components (yet); they won't even listen. "Components have to go to an FFL." No, they don't. No restrictions on components. "Components have to go to an FFL." Can you look up a California law that states that? "Components have to go to an FFL."

Gave up, cancelled the order, and bought from another vendor who had them on my doorstep in about 4 days (with cheaper shipping.) Likely won't be going back to Buds.
 
Couple of times I've gotten decent deals (IMO) from them.

They kind of blew up on me when I ordered the .30-30 Remington 700 Police they were listing. I didn't think so but ordered it any way for the novelty of it.

They called me back the next day, my choice of either the .223 or .308 but according to them I had to take 1 or the other.

Short back and forth and I told them simply return my money, don't ship, FFL was notified not to accept if it wasn't a .30-30 Remington 700.

Haven't heard anything back from them but seems like they're just internet sales button pushers without a clue.
 
I bought one rifle from buds once, it was rusty and scared when it got to me. I payed $30 to send it to their repair shop who kept it for a month and sent it back to me exactly like i sent it to them, scared and rusty. The c.s. person i talked to couldn't care less about it, and let me know it. Needless to say i would throw rocks at what ever i'm trying to hit rather than ever give them a penny again for any gun they have.
 
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