Budget Annealing Machine Recommendations?

[jxb]

AGS works like a charm. I don't mind not having a hopper, just another opportunity to do brass inspection early in the process.

 

[Fast14riot]

I built my own based on the Skip's annealer (the design EP used) for about $65. I don't have the adjustable inserts as I made mine to work for the brass I shoot.

 

[Elfster4321]

I can tell by this response, you haven’t actually used a hopper style flame annealer.

The whole point of a hopper is that you are able to do other things for the reloading process while it anneals your brass all on its own. Literally takes seconds to load a hopper and you don’t stand there feeding it the whole time. Yeah it’s best to stay in the room in case something happens with the open flame, but you just fill it up and go about doing other tasks. If you did want it to run without watching, just get an extension cord and let it run outside away from the house on a patio or something. Ive had annealers that I had to hand feed one at a time. It’s night and day difference.

well.. you're wrong my friend... check out my playlist link below from 6 years ago before the EP 2.0 even existed.. once again, having a hopper doesn't make the process of annealing faster... it just makes it a hopper you need to fill up. By the time the hopper is filled up and parts swapped out i'm already annealing with the EP 2.0. & its not like you can just walk away from a flame based annealer and go mow the yard or whatever. The adjustment from cartridge to cartridge is where it really shines & is just easy to use. Just my opinion.

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[kapt]

Ii see this went in the wrong direction from the original question.. Some seem concerned about open flame but think nothing of the massive EMF radiation given off by induction devices, and the closer you are, the more you get.

 

[Straightshooter1]

Ii see this went in the wrong direction from the original question.. Some seem concerned about open flame but think nothing of the massive EMF radiation given off by induction devices, and the closer you are, the more you get.

Just how close and how much?

 

[Oklahoma Jim]

I have a Burstfire machine and I like it. The powered case tool stations on the top are a nice feature.

 

[rwj]

Just how close and how much?

I’m more concerned about the EMF effects from holding a cell phone against my head!

 

[Bill Norris]

The induction DIY can be done for @ $220.00 The timer/delay controller allows for exact time on each case. Very easy to adjust the time for each brand/caliber specific brass.

 

[kapt]

Just how close and how much?

I am not a Physicist but I know EMF DOES exist and can be measured. There is also debate about safety of induction cooktops as well. Suggest do the reasearch and make your own decision.

 

[Straightshooter1]

I am not a Physicist but I know EMF DOES exist and can be measured. There is also debate about safety of induction cooktops as well. Suggest do the reasearch and make your own decision.

ok, so you have no idea.

Of course, EMF exists and can be measured. Many things produce EMF including our earth as well as our Sun that radiates over the surface of the Earth. So, we're constantly being bombarded with low level EMF from many sources. You have to be very close to a source that produces very strong magnetic fields for high enough energy levels of EMF's to be of any concern . . . like high powered military microwave systems. And yes, I've delved into the science involving it, just because my younger brother was in the air force working on their radar systems. He's in his 70's now and am happy to reports that he has had no apparent effects from working so close to those systems.

 

[Florida Wally]

The induction DIY can be done for @ $320.00 The timer/delay controller allows for exact time on each case. Very easy to adjust the time for each brand/caliber specific brass.

Bill, do you know about how many 308 family cases you could anneal before you need to let it cool? I have read that the wand over heats quickly.

 

[Bill Norris]

Bill, do you know about how many 308 family cases you could anneal before you need to let it cool? I have read that the wand over heats quickly.

If u re-wind or wind your own coils to where it fits closely around the case but not touch it, it does not heat up so fast. ( 9 mm deep well socket works great for the 308 family case ) By doing so the annealing happens much quicker which allows you to move thru the cases faster. For instance my 260AI and 243AI necks only take @ 3.0 sec. or less to turn orange. (Lapua Brass) You adjust the timer to stop at that point and then set the delay time @ double the run time (6 sec.) which allows the device to cool. I have not had mine turn off with annealing 50 cases in a row however, my turn-table only holds 20 cases which allows for cooling time. As you may see in the pic below I have made a cool down tray with a small USB powered computer fan mounted in the end which cools the device while I'm emptying and reloading the turn-table with brass as well. So all total you would have @ 9 sec. per case spent with this process and less time with smaller cases. Hope this helps.

 

[Florida Wally]

If u re-wind or wind your own coils to where it fits closely around the case but not touch it, it does not heat up so fast. ( 9 mm deep well socket works great for the 308 family case ) By doing so the annealing happens much quicker which allows you to move thru the cases faster. For instance my 260AI and 243AI necks only take @ 3.0 sec. or less to turn orange. (Lapua Brass) You adjust the timer to stop at that point and then set the delay time @ double the run time (6 sec.) which allows the device to cool. I have not had mine turn off with annealing 50 cases in a row however, my turn-table only holds 20 cases which allows for cooling time. As you may see in the pic below I have made a cool down tray with a small USB powered computer fan mounted in the end which cools the device while I'm emptying and reloading the turn-table with brass as well. So in total you would have @ 9 sec. per case spent with this process and less time with smaller cases. Hope this helps.

Thanks, helps a lot!

 

[Bill Norris]

Thanks, helps a lot!

Very good. These two videos really helped to understand how to make it work.

 

[Leadfarmer]

I have an ugly annealer. I really like it. Built solid and works for me needs. Few YouTube videos and demos in it, just like the rest. I don't think you can go wrong with an ugly, annealezz, EP, etc. they are gldo the same thing.

I almost went with the EP annealer, but if you're doing slot of cases at a time, I think hand feeding them in one by one is gonna be a pain in the arse.

 

[kapt]

ok, so you have no idea.

Of course, EMF exists and can be measured. Many things produce EMF including our earth as well as our Sun that radiates over the surface of the Earth. So, we're constantly being bombarded with low level EMF from many sources. You have to be very close to a source that produces very strong magnetic fields for high enough energy levels of EMF's to be of any concern . . . like high powered military microwave systems. And yes, I've delved into the science involving it, just because my younger brother was in the air force working on their radar systems. He's in his 70's now and am happy to reports that he has had no apparent effects from working so close to those systems.

I do have an idea, especially about courtesy..

 

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