brux barrels
- Thread starter cliffe
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Are they cut or broached?
I have a 22-243 with a 1-8 Brux, I consider them the equivalent of Krieger of which I also own several.
Brux barrel, 30 cal. using 155 gr. bullets
Bullet testing at Sacramento, BRUX barrel, 02-23-2007
100 yard benchrest, 08:00 to 11:00, temp. = 49 to 51 degrees
Quadlite action, Robertson stock, Scope NF BR 12 – 42X
New Brux barrel 298/3078- 30†– 1:13 twist, round count is 000
Winchester brass, CCI-BR 2 primers, Varget powder, Five shot groups
Berger 155 VLD, Berger 155 LTB, Hornady 155 Amax, Lapua 154’s, Sierra 155’s
Bullet – Powder –Land OAL --- Loaded OAL --- MV --- ES --- Group size --- Scope Elevation
Sierra–-- 46.0 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2885 --- 21 --- 0.367†------- 0,-2.25) First FOUR SHOTS
Sierra–-- 46.0 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2883 --- 26 --- 0.488â€
Sierra–-- 46.5 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2919 --- 16 --- 0.732â€
Sierra–-- 46.5 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2932 --- 19 --- 0.623â€
Sierra–-- 47.0 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2960 --- 38 --- 1.056â€
Sierra–-- 47.5 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2986 --- 33 --- 0.651â€
Amax --– 46.5 ------ 2.840†------- 2.815†-------- 2927 --- 21 --- 0.629†-------- 0,-2.00)
Amax --– 46.5 ------ 2.840†------- 2.815†-------- 2929 --- 36 --- 0.695â€
Amax --– 47.0 ------ 2.840†------- 2.815†-------- 2965 --- 37 --- 0.685â€
B-LTB-– 46.5 ------ 2.875†------- 2.850†-------- 2910 --- 32 --- 0.640†-------- 0,-2.00)
B-LTB-– 46.5 ------ 2.875†------- 2.850†-------- 2913 --- 41 --- 0.382â€
B-LTB—47.0 ------ 2.875†------- 2.850†-------- 2956 --- 29 --- 0.696â€
B-VLD-– 46.5 ------ 2.895†------- 2.905†-------- 2965 --- 16 --- 0.356†-------- 0,-2.50) IN the lands
B-VLD-– 46.5 ------ 2.895†------- 2.905†-------- 2951 --- 24 --- 0.423â€
B-VLD—47.0 ------ 2.895†------- 2.905†-------- 2974 --- 30 --- 0.427â€
Lapua --– 46.0 ------ 2.827†------- 2.820†-------- 2892 --- 40 --- 0.556†-------- 0,-2.00)
Lapua --– 46.0 ------ 2.827†------- 2.820†-------- 2912 --- 39 --- 0.688â€
Lapua --– 46.5 ------ 2.827†------- 2.820†-------- 2942 --- 10 --- 0.440â€
Hornady TAP ammo lot # 3060530 --------------- 2878 --- 38 --- 0.904†-------- 0,-2.00)
Hornady TAP ammo lot # 3060530 --------------- 2859 --- 49 --- 0.708â€
Barrel round count is 100
11-01-2007 Barrel reinstalled
Bullet ----- Lands ------ Load ----- Seater setting
S155 ------ 2.830†----- 2.810†-----,-) 95
B-LTB ---- 2.870†---- 2.850’ ------,-) 90
B-VLD --- 2.893†---- 2.910†------,-) 110
L154 ------ 2.826†----
H155 ------ 2.836 -----
Load testing at Sacramento 11-02-2007 56 to 65 degrees 100 yards - five shot groups
Changed to new Lapua brass, new 2007 Varget lot that has lower ES numbers.
Bullet – Powder-Load –Land OAL --- Loaded OAL --- MV --- ES --- SD --- Group size
B-LTB – H4895- 45.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2983 --- 25 --- 09 ---- 0.300â€
B-LTB – H4895- 45.5 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3020 --- 13 --- 05 ---- 0.644â€
B-LTB – H4895- 46.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3048 --- 11 --- 04 ---- 0.373â€
B-LTB – Varget- 46.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2939 --- 20 --- 07 ---- 0.399â€
B-LTB – Varget- 46.5 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2979 --- 02 --- 01 ---- 0.569†–very low ES
B-LTB – Varget- 47.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3002 --- 41 --- 16 ---- 0.862†– chrono err on one/MV
B-VLD – H4895- 45.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3016 --- 20 --- 08 ---- 0.721â€
B-VLD – H4895- 45.5 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3038 --- 25 --- 10 ---- 0.659â€
B-VLD – H4895- 46.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3062 --- 17 --- 06 ---- 0.291†best group of the day
B-VLD – Varget- 46.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------2959 --- 24 --- 08 ---- 0.843â€
B-VLD – Varget- 46.5 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------2983 --- 09 --- 03 ---- 0.304â€
B-VLD – Varget- 47.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3015 --- 25 --- 09 ---- 0.358â€
Sierra --- H4895- 45.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2979 --- 21 --- 08 ---- 0.399â€
Sierra --- H4895- 45.5 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------3012 --- 23 --- 08 ---- 0.728â€
Sierra --- H4895- 46.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------3049 --- 19 --- 08 ---- 0.453â€
Sierra --- Varget- 46.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2954 --- 29 --- 12 ---- 0.817â€
Sierra --- Varget- 46.5 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2975 --- 21 --- 07 ---- 0.791â€
Sierra --- Varget- 47.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2997 --- 20 --- 10 ---- 0.996â€
11-05-2007 Sacramento 600 yard Bench Rest, Five shot groups, Temp = 61 degrees
The BT’s were jumped 0.020†and the VLD’s were all seated into the lands exactly 0.015â€
Bullet -------- Powder-----Load ---Group size
B155BT ---- 07Varget – 46.5 gr. – 4.726†------ Scope elev. =1-3.125
B155BT ---- 07Varget – 47.0 gr. – 2.520†------ Scope elev. =1-2.500 ** best group
B155VLD – 07Varget – 46.5 gr. – 3.786†------ Scope elev. =1-2.500
B155VLD – 07Varget – 47.0 gr. – 3.540†------ Scope elev. =1-1.750
S155--------- 07Varget – 46.5 gr. – 4.615†------ Scope elev. =1-3.500
S155--------- 07Varget – 47.0 gr. – 3.187†------ Scope elev. =1-2.500
The higher MV of each bullet shot smaller groups.
Berger 155 BT, 2007 Varget 47.0 grains. Prone, Iron sights
11-06-2007 Sacramento Palma
800 yards = 150-10X, 900 yards = 149-07X, 1000 yards = 148-04X, total = 447-21X
Good elevation at all yard lines, the three points were lost to wind.
11-10-2007 Sacramento Palma
800 yards = 149-12X, 900 yards = 147-03X, 1000 yards = 143-04X, total = 439-19X
Lost 9 points to elevation, 2 points to wind. ----- 2nd palma without cleaning.
11-13-2007 Sacramento Palma
800 yards = 150-07X, 900 yards = 146-07X, 1000 yards = 145-05X, total = 441-18X
Started with clean barrel. Lost 5 points to elevation, 4 points to wind.
Barrel round count is 400
Bullet testing at Sacramento, BRUX barrel, 02-23-2007
100 yard benchrest, 08:00 to 11:00, temp. = 49 to 51 degrees
Quadlite action, Robertson stock, Scope NF BR 12 – 42X
New Brux barrel 298/3078- 30†– 1:13 twist, round count is 000
Winchester brass, CCI-BR 2 primers, Varget powder, Five shot groups
Berger 155 VLD, Berger 155 LTB, Hornady 155 Amax, Lapua 154’s, Sierra 155’s
Bullet – Powder –Land OAL --- Loaded OAL --- MV --- ES --- Group size --- Scope Elevation
Sierra–-- 46.0 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2885 --- 21 --- 0.367†------- 0,-2.25) First FOUR SHOTS
Sierra–-- 46.0 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2883 --- 26 --- 0.488â€
Sierra–-- 46.5 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2919 --- 16 --- 0.732â€
Sierra–-- 46.5 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2932 --- 19 --- 0.623â€
Sierra–-- 47.0 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2960 --- 38 --- 1.056â€
Sierra–-- 47.5 ------ 2.830†------- 2.800†-------- 2986 --- 33 --- 0.651â€
Amax --– 46.5 ------ 2.840†------- 2.815†-------- 2927 --- 21 --- 0.629†-------- 0,-2.00)
Amax --– 46.5 ------ 2.840†------- 2.815†-------- 2929 --- 36 --- 0.695â€
Amax --– 47.0 ------ 2.840†------- 2.815†-------- 2965 --- 37 --- 0.685â€
B-LTB-– 46.5 ------ 2.875†------- 2.850†-------- 2910 --- 32 --- 0.640†-------- 0,-2.00)
B-LTB-– 46.5 ------ 2.875†------- 2.850†-------- 2913 --- 41 --- 0.382â€
B-LTB—47.0 ------ 2.875†------- 2.850†-------- 2956 --- 29 --- 0.696â€
B-VLD-– 46.5 ------ 2.895†------- 2.905†-------- 2965 --- 16 --- 0.356†-------- 0,-2.50) IN the lands
B-VLD-– 46.5 ------ 2.895†------- 2.905†-------- 2951 --- 24 --- 0.423â€
B-VLD—47.0 ------ 2.895†------- 2.905†-------- 2974 --- 30 --- 0.427â€
Lapua --– 46.0 ------ 2.827†------- 2.820†-------- 2892 --- 40 --- 0.556†-------- 0,-2.00)
Lapua --– 46.0 ------ 2.827†------- 2.820†-------- 2912 --- 39 --- 0.688â€
Lapua --– 46.5 ------ 2.827†------- 2.820†-------- 2942 --- 10 --- 0.440â€
Hornady TAP ammo lot # 3060530 --------------- 2878 --- 38 --- 0.904†-------- 0,-2.00)
Hornady TAP ammo lot # 3060530 --------------- 2859 --- 49 --- 0.708â€
Barrel round count is 100
11-01-2007 Barrel reinstalled
Bullet ----- Lands ------ Load ----- Seater setting
S155 ------ 2.830†----- 2.810†-----,-) 95
B-LTB ---- 2.870†---- 2.850’ ------,-) 90
B-VLD --- 2.893†---- 2.910†------,-) 110
L154 ------ 2.826†----
H155 ------ 2.836 -----
Load testing at Sacramento 11-02-2007 56 to 65 degrees 100 yards - five shot groups
Changed to new Lapua brass, new 2007 Varget lot that has lower ES numbers.
Bullet – Powder-Load –Land OAL --- Loaded OAL --- MV --- ES --- SD --- Group size
B-LTB – H4895- 45.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2983 --- 25 --- 09 ---- 0.300â€
B-LTB – H4895- 45.5 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3020 --- 13 --- 05 ---- 0.644â€
B-LTB – H4895- 46.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3048 --- 11 --- 04 ---- 0.373â€
B-LTB – Varget- 46.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2939 --- 20 --- 07 ---- 0.399â€
B-LTB – Varget- 46.5 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2979 --- 02 --- 01 ---- 0.569†–very low ES
B-LTB – Varget- 47.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3002 --- 41 --- 16 ---- 0.862†– chrono err on one/MV
B-VLD – H4895- 45.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3016 --- 20 --- 08 ---- 0.721â€
B-VLD – H4895- 45.5 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3038 --- 25 --- 10 ---- 0.659â€
B-VLD – H4895- 46.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3062 --- 17 --- 06 ---- 0.291†best group of the day
B-VLD – Varget- 46.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------2959 --- 24 --- 08 ---- 0.843â€
B-VLD – Varget- 46.5 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------2983 --- 09 --- 03 ---- 0.304â€
B-VLD – Varget- 47.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3015 --- 25 --- 09 ---- 0.358â€
Sierra --- H4895- 45.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2979 --- 21 --- 08 ---- 0.399â€
Sierra --- H4895- 45.5 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------3012 --- 23 --- 08 ---- 0.728â€
Sierra --- H4895- 46.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------3049 --- 19 --- 08 ---- 0.453â€
Sierra --- Varget- 46.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2954 --- 29 --- 12 ---- 0.817â€
Sierra --- Varget- 46.5 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2975 --- 21 --- 07 ---- 0.791â€
Sierra --- Varget- 47.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2997 --- 20 --- 10 ---- 0.996â€
11-05-2007 Sacramento 600 yard Bench Rest, Five shot groups, Temp = 61 degrees
The BT’s were jumped 0.020†and the VLD’s were all seated into the lands exactly 0.015â€
Bullet -------- Powder-----Load ---Group size
B155BT ---- 07Varget – 46.5 gr. – 4.726†------ Scope elev. =1-3.125
B155BT ---- 07Varget – 47.0 gr. – 2.520†------ Scope elev. =1-2.500 ** best group
B155VLD – 07Varget – 46.5 gr. – 3.786†------ Scope elev. =1-2.500
B155VLD – 07Varget – 47.0 gr. – 3.540†------ Scope elev. =1-1.750
S155--------- 07Varget – 46.5 gr. – 4.615†------ Scope elev. =1-3.500
S155--------- 07Varget – 47.0 gr. – 3.187†------ Scope elev. =1-2.500
The higher MV of each bullet shot smaller groups.
Berger 155 BT, 2007 Varget 47.0 grains. Prone, Iron sights
11-06-2007 Sacramento Palma
800 yards = 150-10X, 900 yards = 149-07X, 1000 yards = 148-04X, total = 447-21X
Good elevation at all yard lines, the three points were lost to wind.
11-10-2007 Sacramento Palma
800 yards = 149-12X, 900 yards = 147-03X, 1000 yards = 143-04X, total = 439-19X
Lost 9 points to elevation, 2 points to wind. ----- 2nd palma without cleaning.
11-13-2007 Sacramento Palma
800 yards = 150-07X, 900 yards = 146-07X, 1000 yards = 145-05X, total = 441-18X
Started with clean barrel. Lost 5 points to elevation, 4 points to wind.
Barrel round count is 400
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Jerry,
Thanks for the very comprehensive info. Looks like H4895 might be worth pursuing. I noted:
Bullet – Powder-Load –Land OAL --- Loaded OAL --- MV --- ES --- SD --- Group size
B-LTB – H4895- 46.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3048 --- 11 --- 04 ---- 0.373†Sub 0.4" 2d best LTB group
B-VLD – H4895- 46.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3062 --- 17 --- 06 ---- 0.291†Best group of the day
Sierra --- H4895- 46.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------3049 --- 19 --- 08 ---- 0.453†2d Best Sierra Group
Seems like you have an accuracy node around 3050 fps, and H4895 works well in that range.
It also looks like 2980 is good velocity. Note how you had two 2983 fps loads and they both shot an 0.30X:
B-LTB – H4895- 45.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2983 --- 25 --- 09 ---- 0.300â€
B-VLD – Varget- 46.5 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------2983 --- 09 --- 03 ---- 0.304†VERY LOW ES/SD
Sierra --- H4895- 45.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2979 --- 21 --- 08 ---- 0.399â€
Thanks for the very comprehensive info. Looks like H4895 might be worth pursuing. I noted:
Bullet – Powder-Load –Land OAL --- Loaded OAL --- MV --- ES --- SD --- Group size
B-LTB – H4895- 46.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------3048 --- 11 --- 04 ---- 0.373†Sub 0.4" 2d best LTB group
B-VLD – H4895- 46.0 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------3062 --- 17 --- 06 ---- 0.291†Best group of the day
Sierra --- H4895- 46.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------3049 --- 19 --- 08 ---- 0.453†2d Best Sierra Group
Seems like you have an accuracy node around 3050 fps, and H4895 works well in that range.
It also looks like 2980 is good velocity. Note how you had two 2983 fps loads and they both shot an 0.30X:
B-LTB – H4895- 45.0 – 2.870†-------- 2.850†----------2983 --- 25 --- 09 ---- 0.300â€
B-VLD – Varget- 46.5 – 2.893†-------- 3.910†----------2983 --- 09 --- 03 ---- 0.304†VERY LOW ES/SD
Sierra --- H4895- 45.0 – 2.830†-------- 2.810†----------2979 --- 21 --- 08 ---- 0.399â€
I didn't go up through all the posts to see if this will be a duplicate post or not but here goes. Brux Barrel, Bartlein Barrel, and Rock Creek Barrel all have men in their employ that were trained by Boots Obermyer. They learned the art of cut rifling from him. The fact that they moved on in no way bothered Boots, as I understand it. Wisconsin and the barrel birners of USA are fortunate to have such a choice in rifle barrels.
Guys we never worked for Obermeyer. We only worked at Krieger and Krieger himself never worked for Obermeyer either.
Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels Inc.
Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels Inc.
Sorry Frank. That was what I was told. I retract what I said.
Being from WI, I can say when buying a barrel it's not hard to keep the money local. I personally have one Brux barrel in 6.5x284, unfortunately I can't tell you how it shoots because that rifle is still waiting for a stock. But if it shoots like any of the other Brux barrels that my buddies own it'll definitely be a tackdriver. Top notch service and I've yet to see a Brux that didn't shoot!!
FB, No problem. We get it all the time. Just because we are in WI people automatically think we worked with Boots etc...
Later, Frank
Later, Frank
Randy Gregory for one with tell you real quick, he ain't your brother!
most of the barrel makers are in the southern part of the state. randy is in the northern part, so far north that a traffic jam is 2 cars following a tractor for about a quarter mile. randy did some work on a sako i have, he did a great job on it. he really knows his stuff.hopefully this barrel on order keeps that high standard of quality that the wisconsin guys are doing.
BTW alot of people move out of wisconsin, and the smart ones move back! cliffe
BTW alot of people move out of wisconsin, and the smart ones move back! cliffe
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