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Broken case....... lessons learned

I have had an occasional case separation in my .223 rifles but they have always been easy to remove. Usually both parts simply fall out. The other day, while breaking in a new barrel, a well used case separated. Invariably broken cases are my fault caused by reloading my plinking brass far longer than I should. I anneal every reloading cycle, so the necks last forever. Normally I toss my brass when the primer pockets wear out; however, in this instance the case fractured first and forward portion was well and truly stuck in the chamber.

The forward part would not come out of the chamber by using either a bore snake down the muzzle or an oversized bronze brush inserted from the chamber end. So I ordered a $10 case extractor from Amazon, mainly because Prime could deliver it quickly. Big mistake. Save your money. I had to use a magnet to be sure it was made from steel. I didn't know you could make steel so soft. It appeared to have been made in Pakistan by a young boy using a rock and particularly dull file. No wonder it wouldn't grip the case neck lip. But that did not keep me from trying and that included expending some effort re-shaping the extractor with my jeweler files. No luck. It simply would not grip the case neck lip.

Next, I ordered a $20 version of a case extractor along with a bar of Cerrosafe chamber casting alloy and a Lee ladle. A week later, I had the parts in hand. The extractor was well made, but I had already rounded off the lip of the case neck to the point that the improved extractor couldn't get a grip either. But it certainly looks like it would work on a fresh case so I tucked into my range bag. On to the casting alloy.

I have never used Cerrosafe before, but the included instructions are quite complete including a procedure for extracting a broken case. This technique is apparently known in some circles, but nobody I talked with suggested it as a solution and that includes several experienced gun smiths I consulted regarding my broken case, all my red-neck shooting buddies, and the regular gang down at the local gun range.

The procedure is quick, simple, and effective. I plugged the bore with a patch about 1/2" ahead of the broken case and clamped the barreled action vertically in my workbench vise. Then I warmed the barrel and action with my heat gun. Next, I melted a ladle full of Cerrosafe, again using the heat gun, and poured the molten metal into the chamber. Don't spill any on your bare feet!

After 10 minutes I tapped out the casting along with the broken case using a cleaning rod down the muzzle; success! Instantly the pall of depression associated with my broken case was lifted and this irritable old man was returned to his normal state of mind which happens to be that of a regular grumpy old man.

If you are not familiar with using Cerrosafe for removing a broken case, keep it mind if you encounter one that is particularly hard to remove.
 
I hope I never have to do this, but thanks for the information......

I`m glad it got your situation resolved.....


Phil.
 
As luck would have it, I got one of these yesterday. A customer brought in his AR with half a case properly stuck in the chamber. It laughed at my stuck case remover. Wouldn't budge. Drove a shaped dowel with o-rings into the stuck case and smacked the front end with a brass rod. No joy.

I was about to look through my coarse taps for something suitable but I'll be trying the Cerrosafe first. Thank you for sharing your solution. Timely, too.
 
Update . . . Worked like a charm! After the Cerrosafe set up, a few (very) firm taps on a brass rod and out it came. Thanks again for passing this along!
 
The best thing is trash the brass with the ring on them . Larry
Not my rifle, it belongs to one of my customers. He said it happened with Federal factory ammo - I believe him because he doesn't hand load. Very dirty and/or corroded chamber is my guess.
 
Head space - .001" and was checked the afternoon before the case separated. It's not a headspace problem. The broken case was caused by using brass beyond it's useful life.


Tell me how you get case head separation if your brass is properly sized to the headspace of the weapon?
 
I have 300pcs of Winchester 308w brass that I've reloaded 26 times and have not lost a single piece. Primer pockets are all good too. I anneal them every 5 reloads. Bump shoulders 0.002" - 0.003" Shot in a bolt gun.

Should I retire them ? I don't like the idea of having a case head separating while shooting. I don't feel any brass thinning with the paperclip method. Should I sacrifice a couple of pieces and cut them in half lengthwise to make sure ?

Thanks for sharing the cerrosafe trick ! sounds perfect for when all else fails.
 
That cerrosafe trick is great. Thanks for sharing.That is why I donate money to this forum as I always learn something everytime I read the threads. I agree with Butch but if it was used brass or surplus and shot in a gun with headspace trouble to begin with, it stretches and resizing wont stop what was started if bad enough. I use new brass a lot more even in hunting rifles.
 

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