I've had this same problem with brand new Lapua brass. Fit fine in an RCBS shellholder but some wanted to hang up in Redding shellholder.
Brass to shell holder friction
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I reload a lot for several 223 Rem bolt rifles and brands of rifles. Some extractors tear up the rims more than others - my Rem 700's are especially hard on the rims after several reloadings. The rims become a thin and irregular. I'm using an RCBS shell holder. I do experience some resistance on some cases when I insert them into the shell holder.
However I haven't notice any decline in performance or precision from these cases.
I've never experience this with any of the large rifle rimmed cartridges with thicker rims such as the 243, 22 250, 308, etc. I may be wrong but I believe the thin / fragile rims on the 223 are the culprit.
However I haven't notice any decline in performance or precision from these cases.
I've never experience this with any of the large rifle rimmed cartridges with thicker rims such as the 243, 22 250, 308, etc. I may be wrong but I believe the thin / fragile rims on the 223 are the culprit.
been there done that
its the shell holder
I had some 308 Lapua brass large primer I used in my Palma rifle.
These loads are warm, I anneal every other time.
After 9 or 10 reloads I started to have the same problem with me primer shell holder.
I tried a small base die and the loaded rounds were loose when I chambered them.
My F Class friends said I had expanded the case head from repeated heavy loads and the brass was toast.
Switched over to small palma brass, so far no problem.
Mic your case head and compare to new and SAMMI specs and see what you get.
Steve Bair
These loads are warm, I anneal every other time.
After 9 or 10 reloads I started to have the same problem with me primer shell holder.
I tried a small base die and the loaded rounds were loose when I chambered them.
My F Class friends said I had expanded the case head from repeated heavy loads and the brass was toast.
Switched over to small palma brass, so far no problem.
Mic your case head and compare to new and SAMMI specs and see what you get.
Steve Bair
Liven The Dream
Gold $$ Contributor
I was give a couple hundred Hornady .223 case from the range can.
about 1/3 of them did what you are asking ..
My thought was shot from a slow end Blaster ? The Rims looked Pulled ?
Scrap and got new LC .
The Brass out of my Rifle is all good .
about 1/3 of them did what you are asking ..
My thought was shot from a slow end Blaster ? The Rims looked Pulled ?
Scrap and got new LC .
The Brass out of my Rifle is all good .
Dusty, if it was a hot load do you slightly cut down the head of the case or throw it out?
Ben
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Get a different shellholder
3 years maybe 4000 rounds mostly 223 gas gun reloads.
My first was cartridges were once used win, hornady, rem, fed some lc.
Different ones some fit some were tight in more than one holder.
Some experienced pressure signs as i was able to read. Loose primers, ejector marks, other.
Get rid of any questionable ones, cost of education is cheap.
Save for later? Look back and judge when you have more experience?
Move on.
My first was cartridges were once used win, hornady, rem, fed some lc.
Different ones some fit some were tight in more than one holder.
Some experienced pressure signs as i was able to read. Loose primers, ejector marks, other.
Get rid of any questionable ones, cost of education is cheap.
Save for later? Look back and judge when you have more experience?
Move on.
TAJ45
Silver $$ Contributor
I reread Stumpy's post and feel it has much merit.
I also thought of a possibility, albeit slim w level of experience displayed.
IF - loading mixed brass for volume targets, the charge was near top in a case w more capacity and same charge thrown in a thick walled case, that could explain the expansion. Just a Hail Mary.
I too have experienced the same fitment probs when going through 1x that I've bought. Usually a slight burr or deformity were my findings.
I also thought of a possibility, albeit slim w level of experience displayed.
IF - loading mixed brass for volume targets, the charge was near top in a case w more capacity and same charge thrown in a thick walled case, that could explain the expansion. Just a Hail Mary.
I too have experienced the same fitment probs when going through 1x that I've bought. Usually a slight burr or deformity were my findings.
It is the same & only shell holder I have been useing for over 5000 rounds. I was thinking a few pc of brass must have had a hot load during testing. Maybe it is that simple.
Ben
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
It is simple. If your shellholder is that close though it may be influencing your cases going into the die so that makes another reason to get another shellholder. Could be this lot of brass may be on the big side. You know i like plenty of slack on everything in the press and die- let the die work with no outside influence
Good advice, 2 new shell holders on order!
Ben
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Always gotta have backups. Get one of every brand
There is a good chance the brass was fired oujt of an ar15 or some type of gas gun the first firing whitch could ding the rims but also some shell holders are smaller than others for the same caliper.
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