brass shortage....please read....

[onelastshot]

Cabelas has some...

Which Cabela's?

 

[LCazador]

Grafs has 6mm Remington brass in stock.

 

[onelastshot]

Grafs has 6mm Remington brass in stock.

Unfortunately they only have Winchester brand, not Remington. I don't even know if Remington is even making brass for the retail public anymore.

 

[people]

The volume isn't enough to justify additional tooling and associated labor costs for what have become niche cartridges.
The first four listed by the OP are primarily hunting cartridges. The Dasher is a small volume niche cartridge. The other example posted, 6mm Remington, I've seen at ranges twice in the last ten years. Most hunters I see at the gun clubs do NOT reload. Neither do the AR guys. They simply don't have the time, don't need that much improvement in accuracy or can't see saving enough money to justify reloading. One person with a couple full blown custom rifles even told me the customs weren't worth their cost when his factory built 6.5 Creedmoor can shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards with factory ammo. Having said that, with factory ammo being made with better components and more precision, the AVERAGE shooter is not convinced he needs to reload.

I am not saying buy 5 machines just one is all hat is needed. You can do short runs and it will sell.

 

[JRS]

I am not saying buy 5 machines just one is all hat is needed. You can do short runs and it will sell.

The cost for development is substantial, and many pieces of brass have to be sold just to break even.

 

[dkhunt14]

The cost for development is substantial, and many pieces of brass have to be sold just to break even.

Then why do they keep introducing dumb cartridges. I can guarantee it cost alot for them to tool for 50 BMG and all the match shooters use RWS brass. As soon as Norma brings in a shipment of WSM brass it is gone in a few weeks. They are making big runs of it. It just sells. Also match shooters tend to buy bigger amounts at a time. The casual reloader might buy 1 or 2 hundred and the match shooter buys 500 to 1000 at a time. Matt

 

[JRS]

I contacted one of the major players about brass for a certain cartridge, and was told I would have to order at least 1.5 million pieces for them to even consider it. Personally, I don't have that kind of money.

 

[people]

The cost for development is substantial, and many pieces of brass have to be sold just to break even.

The cost is much lower than they want you to think. In many cases it is machine time that is needed as they have the tooling.

Look at starline brass. Some how they have more cash than lapua?

 

[Rsadams]

Which Cabela's?

The one in Buda tx.. Had some just the other day... You can order online...

 

[onelastshot]

The one in Buda tx.. Had some just the other day... You can order online...

I appreciate you responding; I just went online to the Cabela's site, they don't have 6mm Remington listed, frustrating!

 

[ireload2]

They introduce dumb cartridges to sell dumb rifles to dumb hunters who think they can spend their way into shooting a trophy buck. They are the same guys with the latest camo, 4 wheeler, Hale telescope scope mounted on their rifle and $2000 binocular. Match shooters are just the gnats flying around a water melon rind.
So you have 1000 match shooters that buy 1000 cases each year- that is only a million cases. Big deal when a lot of them are run of the mill .308 cases and .223s. By the time you chop the market into 20 different match calibers you don't have much of a market left for any one boutique case.
The 50 BMG is a well established standard around the world. Any unsold brass can be channeled into military ammo.
Norma and big lots is a contradiction in terms. Going back 50 years Norma has never ever had much of a retail presence in the US. They either have lousy to no inventory or they have a terrible distribution chain or both. On top of that the worst batch of brass that I ever bought was made by Norma. The case necks were about .008 on one side and .015 on the other side.
Every Norma item I have bought was bought by a mail order catalog before the net, on the internet, once fired or well traveled gun show leftovers.

Then why do they keep introducing dumb cartridges. I can guarantee it cost alot for them to tool for 50 BMG and all the match shooters use RWS brass. As soon as Norma brings in a shipment of WSM brass it is gone in a few weeks. They are making big runs of it. It just sells. Also match shooters tend to buy bigger amounts at a time. The casual reloader might buy 1 or 2 hundred and the match shooter buys 500 to 1000 at a time. Matt

 

[Rsadams]

I appreciate you responding; I just went online to the Cabela's site, they don't have 6mm Remington listed, frustrating!

Man.. I use it for my deer rifle and I bought a bag out there... I saw it and almost broke my neck try to get it..lol. Its the first bag I have ever seen in store shelves and I am almost 50... They still sell rifles in 6mm remington I don't know why the brass is like gold...

 

[LCazador]

Unfortunately they only have Winchester brand, not Remington. I don't even know if Remington is even making brass for the retail public anymore.

They had Hornady, last time I checked.

 

[ireload2]

To deal with brass shortages you need to start at the first sign of scarcity.
I started picking up cheap bullets and brass of almost every caliber about 35 years ago.
6mm rem brass was always hard to find and was even more difficult to find cheap and/or once fired.
I ran into a WW over run of 500 .257 Roberts brass on line for dirt cheap. My goal was to reform all of them to 6mm Rem. As the years passed I had the opportunity to acquire about 600 RP cases in 6mm Rem.
Now .257 Roberts +P brass sells for $1 each, so my 257 Roberts brass went down the road.
A similar thing happened with .35 Rem brass. It was cheap and then disappeared about 20 years ago. I bought big lots of once fired brass along with the rest of the stuff that short time reloaders get rid of with their brass. So now I have a lot of brass and 7 sets of dies.
Some might call this hording. But hording might be the name if the shortage is temporary. Many of these cases are never coming back so it is more like enabling your shooting for the foreseeable future.
Try pricing .25-20 Win and .218 Bee brass today.