Hello all.. for years ive had cheaper rifles and I've always used the cheap multi piece aluminum cleaning kits.... now with the vanguard s2 and savage 10t i would like to begin using bore guide and 1 piece cleaning rods... im looking for a bore guide that will have a rear support to keep the rods centered... looking at the websites (midway optics planet.. amazon)they do not specify if the guides do or do not come with this. Any information is appreciated. Thanks