Blurry at 600 yards

[miles13]

I'm new to benchrest shooting and I have a problem. I wear glasses & the target is blurry with the glasses & a little better without them. Any suggestions on how to resolve this problem? I thought about trying different cheap reading glasses.

 

[wapiti25]

you need to see the eye Dr.

 

[chkunz]

you need to see the eye Dr.

I have found that most eye Dr do not understand what we need. I would first rely on other shooters that have solved a similar problem. I only have a little experience using a scope but it sounds like you have not properly adjusted the scope for your eyes. I will let others more knowledgeable of scope set up comment.

 

[bdale]

What type of scope are you using?

 

[miles13]

What type of scope are you using?

Leupold Competition 45x45.

 

[M-61]

What type of scope are you using?

Leupold Competition 45x45.

I have the same scope. Don't know if this link will help but it is worth reading although it mostly concerns parallax.
http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/Parallax.asp

The actual focusing of the scope can be some folks problem in so much they do not do it properly. I would be sure your scope is focused for your eyes properly. I do it by looking at a white wall....looking thru the scope and should it be focused correctly the reticle should be clear. It is a quick look and then look away. If you continue to stare thru the scope the eye tries to make a correction within itself which is what you don't want. So it takes a few looks and a few adjustments of the FOCUS ring to get it right. The FOCUS ring is not the parallax corrector.
I think I have this explained correctly....someone will step in to give a better explanation.
My only complaint with the Leupold 45 is extremely critical eye relief.

 

[savagedasher]

Try a competitor scope . It could be your scope. Larry

 

[Lapua40X]

you need to see the eye Dr.

I have found that most eye Dr do not understand what we need. I would first rely on other shooters that have solved a similar problem. I only have a little experience using a scope but it sounds like you have not properly adjusted the scope for your eyes. I will let others more knowledgeable of scope set up comment.

If your eye doctor doesn't understand your needs then, IMO, you need to find another eye doctor. "Eye doctor" can mean opthamologist, optometrist or optician. Depending on the education and level of specialization it is possible to find an eye specialist who understands your needs.
That said, some of the ideas generally expressed here that don't include seeing an "eye doctor" are (IMO) worth pursuing and may well solve your problem without having to consult a professional.
When I found I was having trouble focusing on target I discovered I have early stage cataracts. Can't wait to get those removed.

 

[snakepit]

I wear glasses with progressive lenses and normally shoot benchrest at 600 yds. I am using a Sightron Slll 10-50x60 scope. What has worked for me for several years is to remove my prescription glass and then focus the reticle/crosshairs with the eyepiece. I then focus the parallax to where the target is sharp and clear. I wear clear shooting glasses when I shoot and not my prescription glasses. This procedure has worked great for me. One thing the Sightron technican told me with using this procedure was not to run the eyepiece focus all the way to it's full limit because at full limit you may notice some loss in quality of your picture. As bad as my eyes are I do not need to run the knob to it's full limit.

 

[Shynloco]

Miles,
Have someone else look through your scope and see if it's the scope or you. I wear glasses, have older eyes and shoot with a Leupold 35X and it is actually clearer than any of my Weaver T36's that are plenty clear. So having someone else look through the scope at least eliminates the scope as the problem. Right now you are just guessing at what your problem really is. Just my take on your issue.

Alex

 

[bdale]

What type of scope are you using?

Leupold Competition 45x45.

I have the same scope. Don't know if this link will help but it is worth reading although it mostly concerns parallax.
http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/Parallax.asp

The actual focusing of the scope can be some folks problem in so much they do not do it properly. I would be sure your scope is focused for your eyes properly. I do it by looking at a white wall....looking thru the scope and should it be focused correctly the reticle should be clear. It is a quick look and then look away. If you continue to stare thru the scope the eye tries to make a correction within itself which is what you don't want. So it takes a few looks and a few adjustments of the FOCUS ring to get it right. The FOCUS ring is not the parallax corrector.
I think I have this explained correctly....someone will step in to give a better explanation.
My only complaint with the Leupold 45 is extremely critical eye relief.

+1

 

[Alex Wheeler]

How about a little more info. When you say blurry, is the image blurry or the crosshairs? I have found that I have a hard time getting Leupolds diopter adjusted for my eyes. I usually end up with them bottomed out and need more. I do not have this issue with NF.

 

[miles13]

Miles,
Have someone else look through your scope and see if it's the scope or you. I wear glasses, have older eyes and shoot with a Leupold 35X and it is actually clearer than any of my Weaver T36's that are plenty clear. So having someone else look through the scope at least eliminates the scope as the problem. Right now you are just guessing at what your problem really is. Just my take on your issue.

Alex

The scope is clear for my fellow shooters. Their scopes are blurry to me, Nightforce included.

 

[miles13]

How about a little more info. When you say blurry, is the image blurry or the crosshairs? I have found that I have a hard time getting Leupolds diopter adjusted for my eyes. I usually end up with them bottomed out and need more. I do not have this issue with NF.

The target not the crosshairs. A Nightforce looks the same as my Leupold.

 

[Eric Leonard]

I have the same problem,,my eyes are not good,,I can get the reticle clear and the paralax set to where the target does not move when I move my head around lookin through the scope,,I cant adjust the scope to get a clear target and a clear reticle on any scope turned up much past 14X,,

I would like to have a pair of glasses without bifocals to shoot with with no tint,,

will the stick on apertures sight shooters put on their glasses help a scope shooter,,

 

[miles13]

My eye doctor is out of town till Monday. Her assistant said that doc is very familiar with my problem & has helped several men in the same situation. Looking forward to my appointment next week.

 

[Pres100]

I'm new to benchrest shooting and I have a problem. I wear glasses & the target is blurry with the glasses & a little better without them. Any suggestions on how to resolve this problem? I thought about trying different cheap reading glasses.

I don't think the cheap reading glasses are going to solve your problem.... They are magnifiers and would most likely make the resolution of the target even worse.

 

[NZVarminter]

For years I too struggled with this until one way I had an epiphany

I have now figured out its because my glasses have progressives lenses and correct my astigmatism. With a astigmatism correction, because the correction changes the "angles" (not sure of correct terminology here, but a circle now looks oval) it means the glasses have to be level and perpendicular with your eye for the lens "cut" to "correct" your vision. Also with progressives, the correction varies across the height and width of the lens.

Once you tilt your head to look through the scope the alignment between your eye and the glasses changes and you end up looking through the top inside corner of the glass lens where there the lens has not been ground for the full correction. Remember with progressive lenses you need to be looking through the middle of a progressive lens, so have to swing your head rather than move your eyes in their sockets when panning from side to side.

My solution has to get in position with cheek on the stock, then lift the glasses side frame on my stock side and put it down on the outside of my ear ( my hearing protection holds it in place). This drops this side of my frames down and makes the frame closer to perpendicular with my eye and suddenly the crosshairs are perfectly sharp.

Another solution that may help is to wedge a soft ear plug in the bridge of the glasses as this raises the glasses up on the nose so you are looking through the middle rather than top edge of them when your head is angled forward on the stock.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Grant

 

[chkunz]

For years I too struggled with this until one way I had an epiphany

I have now figured out its because my glasses have progressives lenses and correct my astigmatism. With a astigmatism correction, because the correction changes the "angles" (not sure of correct terminology here, but a circle now looks oval) it means the glasses have to be level and perpendicular with your eye for the lens "cut" to "correct" your vision. Also with progressives, the correction varies across the height and width of the lens.

Once you tilt your head to look through the scope the alignment between your eye and the glasses changes and you end up looking through the top inside corner of the glass lens where there the lens has not been ground for the full correction. Remember with progressive lenses you need to be looking through the middle of a progressive lens, so have to swing your head rather than move your eyes in their sockets when panning from side to side.

My solution has to get in position with cheek on the stock, then lift the glasses side frame on my stock side and put it down on the outside of my ear ( my hearing protection holds it in place). This drops this side of my frames down and makes the frame closer to perpendicular with my eye and suddenly the crosshairs are perfectly sharp.

Another solution that may help is to wedge a soft ear plug in the bridge of the glasses as this raises the glasses up on the nose so you are looking through the middle rather than top edge of them when your head is angled forward on the stock.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Grant

Some shooting glasses have adjustable nose bridges that move up and down which is more convenient than the nose plug option.. Decot is one brand.