Bipod For F/TR?

[Chappy]

So I couldn't take a piece of plywood and wrap some carpet around it for ranges don't have all that solid of berms?

 

[JRS]

So I couldn't take a piece of plywood and wrap some carpet around it for ranges don't have all that solid of berms?

You'd have to read the rules. I think there is a limit as to the distance a board or plate can protrude beyond the bipod. The JoyPod Pad isn't a board or plate.

 

[Chappy]

You'd have to read the rules. I think there is a limit as to the distance a board or plate can protrude beyond the bipod. The JoyPod Pad isn't a board or plate.

The use of “tables” i.e. a single fl at solid surface extending under both front rest and rear bag is prohibited. Carpet or similarly fl exible matting may be placed under the front rest and rear bag. Seperate fl at boards and or plates not exceeding the dimensions of the individual rests by two inches on a given side may also be placed under the front rest and rear bag. In the case of a bipod, the board or plate may be as wide as necessary to accomodate the bipod at its widest point, but not be more than 12” front to rear. It is not permitted to provide tracks for the guidance of bipod feet. No levelling screws or protrusions are allowed on these boards or plates. They must be fl at on the top and bottom

These are the rules from the NRA High Power Handbook for F/TR

 

[sfldiver]

Someone at my local range, who happens to shoot at Port Malabar with a Joy-Pod, told me I could use a board that is 12" x 24" and no more than 3/4" thick. It sounded like he was suggesting I lay the pad on top of the board, but I'm not sure if that's what he meant.

Should I even bother with the pad if I'm using a felt lined board? In general, is the pad a good way to go or is it just something I should use in certain situations?

Adrian

 

[JBO]

Phoenix Precision makes an out standing bipod !

 

[JRS]

Someone at my local range, who happens to shoot at Port Malabar with a Joy-Pod, told me I could use a board that is 12" x 24" and no more than 3/4" thick. It sounded like he was suggesting I lay the pad on top of the board, but I'm not sure if that's what he meant.

Should I even bother with the pad if I'm using a felt lined board? In general, is the pad a good way to go or is it just something I should use in certain situations?

Adrian

Personally, I think the pad would be much easier to maintain, move and load/unload.

 

[seb]

To Adrian,
If shooters allowed to use the Pod-pad in US F-Class Nationals and Worlds then logically you can use it legally in any F-Class matches in the States *and other countries.
Podpad is not a board or plate, it is flexible and can be folded. I did my homework when designing the Joypod & Podpad combo. Period.
ATB,
seb.

 

[seb]

Check out the latest SWN Equipment List.
ATB,
seb.

 

[coldboreshot]

GSXR... That, you are correct. it is not a board or plate. But you may want to consider review of NRA High Power rule 3.4.1 (b)(2). I believe it specifically states contradictory to your statement. Its been a while since I've seen the "pad" that 3 of my teammates have with their joypods, but I could swear it was thicker than 1/2". They also don't use the pad during registered matches. And yes, Sebastian DOES his homework well. I have one of his GEN II F Open rests and it is superb.

 

[JRS]

GSXR... That, you are correct. it is not a board or plate. But you may want to consider review of NRA High Power rule 3.4.1 (b)(2). I believe it specifically states contradictory to your statement. Its been a while since I've seen the "pad" that 3 of my teammates have with their joypods, but I could swear it was thicker than 1/2". They also don't use the pad during registered matches. And yes, Sebastian DOES his homework well. I have one of his GEN II F Open rests and it is superb.

The OP is asking about F-TR.

 

[skiutah02]

I've been interested in having a clear interpretation to this rule for awhile now and have seen it debated a few times in other threads. I have used several bipods myself for FTR and really like my Seb JoyPod. If we can all agree that the PodPad is neither a board nor a plate, then the dimensions become irrelevant in my personal interpretations of the rule.

My own interpretation has been to believe that:

A board is a piece of wood (solid and flat) and a plate is a piece of metal (solid and flat). With that definition in mind, it makes sense to have dimensions enforced. If it is bendable, I can place effectively anything under my bipod to "level" the firing point, per Rule 3.4.1b(5) but not under both bipod and rear bag that constitutes a "table".

3.4.1b(5) Any number or type of objects may be placed beneath the bipod or rear support, to compensate for variations in height or slope of the firing point.


I use a piece of carpet on top of some flexible rubber. I've joined them together just to ease in transport.

I would be VERY happy to have clarification on this, and lacking some, happy to be corrected/learned, provided that it can be backed up with the HP rulebook. IMHO this all hinges upon the intended meaning or "board" and "plate". Again, in my opinion, both board and plate imply inflexibility of the object under the bipod. Not looking to be confrontational, rather seeking enlightenment. Have no interest in hammering this out at a big match. Drew

 

[coldboreshot]

My apologies to all...I was not aware of the recent update regarding the use of the Joypad during registered matches.

 

[Ray Gross]

.... If it is bendable, I can place effectively anything under my bipod to "level" the firing point, per Rule 3.4.1b(5) but not under both bipod and rear bag that constitutes a "table".

3.4.1b(5) Any number or type of objects may be placed beneath the bipod or rear support, to compensate for variations in height or slope of the firing point.

....

Drew, your interpretation is correct, excepting that 3.4.1b(5) does not require flexibility. However, if the objects were rigid, they would have to conform to the dimensions specified in 3.4.1b(2).

 

[skiutah02]

coldbore, I think no apologies are necessary (certainly not to me) as this is an unsettled issue. I, for one, would like to have it settled once and for all. (mostly this borad/plate thing). However, seb is correct IMHO, the PodPad is not a board or a plate and is perfectly legal. But I'm not a Match Director. Drew

 

[skiutah02]

Drew, your interpretation is correct, excepting that 3.4.1b(5) does not require flexibility. However, if the objects were rigid, they would have to conform to the dimensions specified in 3.4.1b(2).

Thanks, seems straightforward to me, but on several other threads late last year (just prior to Nationals) there were alot of varied opinions expressed. Drew