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Needs have little to do with it, one could make an argument that no one needs a 5000 square foot house or multiple houses or a yacht or ...on and on in in fact the "public good" would be served by NOT having those luxuries by way of a smaller carbon foot print. The political elite don't have your interests or public safety or the health and welfare of future generations in mind- only maintaining /continuing their hold on power and feathering their own nest.

The second amendment was written solely with an eye toward the people being able to suppress/resist tyranny by a future government. No other "need" was under consideration at the time.
Excellent points; I can't agee more. I should explain that I was not professing the relevance of 'needs', merely parroting the previous poster, in an attatempt to reveal the hazards of such thinking...

I would further suggest that if we are going to (legal) war with gov't, better it be fought on the battlefield of bump stocks, and pistol braces, as opposed to sporting rifles, and their magazines.
 
Economics has little to do with the practical, or the principle.
A lot of people don't see the need for any gun not used to shoot a duck, or kill a deer.
How's it going to feel when they're OK with banning 'sniper rifles' and any ammo that might kill someone a half mile away?
Yeah I get it. I need to review my words before hitting post... for sure I can stir things up...

SCOTUS is for now, conservative. Many lower courts are not. The governments last 20-25 years has been nothing but partisan politics with little effort to truly conduct the People’s business on their behalf.

There are people paid as influencers, there are groups purported to support this that and the other that don’t. Media is in the business of selling ad time. Social media knows more about people than their parents ever did. The flavor of the month occurs every 3 seconds....
 
I'd have to say the Supreme Court is not and never has been conservative. Both Bush's opined about "keeping the balance" which means a balance of ignoring the Constitution in favor of partisan politics. If they were truly conservative we wouldn't be enjoying this shit storm of Marxist ideology ravaging our country now. They ignored the Constitutional issues challenged about the fraudulent election thereby confirming the corruption.
Over the years Congress and the Executive have relied on unelected agency bureaucrats and the judicial to govern with impunity devoid of any oversight thereby abdicating their Constitutional charge. Their main charge is re-election by avoiding any issues that would jeopardize their chance of remaining in power and enjoying the perks of special interest lobbyists. They become rich by ignoring the Constitution they all took an oath to defend. We have no recourse unless citizens choose their constitutional options. Those Liberties are being challenged more forcefully each day. We are devolving into a Socialist society controlled by propaganda and willful media abuse of the first amendment. our representatives work only on their own behalf under the disguise of representing their constituents.
 
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government."

I wonder if we have what it takes to do as our forefathers did? At this point...........I have my doubts. Too many people just want to "go back to normal".........IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. The communists are soooo close to achieving their goal. No 1st amendment, no 2A, universal health care, guaranteed universal income..........and so many more things like these.

There will be a few real patriots that rise up in an attempt to stop this, Some actually BELIEVE the 2A is about freedom.....but I don't think there will be enough willing to pay the price at this point. I hope I'm wrong about that.
 
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government."

I wonder if we have what it takes to do as our forefathers did? At this point...........I have my doubts. Too many people just want to "go back to normal".........IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. The communists are soooo close to achieving their goal. No 1st amendment, no 2A, universal health care, guaranteed universal income..........and so many more things like these.

There will be a few real patriots that rise up in an attempt to stop this, Some actually BELIEVE the 2A is about freedom.....but I don't think there will be enough willing to pay the price at this point. I hope I'm wrong about that.
This lays it out perfectly, in plain english! The left's "coup" is being executed strategically and daily. We are losing ground every day. I too, wonder if we have what it takes to carry out what the constitution says we have a right to do and must do.
 
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I think it is more of lets keep them fighting amongst themselves, give them weed keep them stoned and docile. They will not pay attention to what we are doing. Biden's plan to reach conservatives through Country Music and NASCAR? That's as ignorant as saying they are going to reach black people through Popeyes Chicken and watermelon stands! These folks are out of touch. Think of the outrage if they had stereotyped other groups that way! There are Black conservatives and Liberals. Everyone has the right to his or her opinion. To stereotype one group like they did with the Conservatives and County Music and NASCAR is appalling. This is our government on Dementia.

The media are useful idiots.
Everything looks fine here at the corner of Oblivious Ave. and Whatever St.
Rock on Bitch Bun Baristas/social justice warriors.

K
 
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This is not political!

Just heard Joe say something about controlling guns you could change the barrel length and stock length. Could that be construed to include TC Contenders and Encores? There was going to be a fee on those types of guns.

He also talked about the Feds getting mixed up in "Red Flag Laws".

I was not paying close attention and want more information. It sounded like the uninformed writing laws.

Bill

Leftists and Control Freaks never think of the secondary and tertiary effects of their stupid ideas. Their hubris is always their undoing (always someone else's fault of course!).
 
Wanting to outlaw guns because of criminal use is like wanting to ban cars to stop drunk driving.
Well.......
In the mindset of liberals, this line of thinking, banning things, controling things and making laws to regulate things to achieve "safety" (we call it perceived safety) is perfectly obvious, sensible and reasonable. Well, that is, until they need something that they felt needed controling or banning and now they can't get it very quickly, or at all; maybe now the dim lightbulb turns on, too late.

Danny
 
The sad truth is our culture is and has been eroded to the point that the tenets of Marxism now seem a viable reality to those in power that would entertain that. We have been rope-a-doped by both parties and a deeply flawed education system and judicial supported by a corrupt media cabal.

Sidney Powell's book "Licensed to Lie" and Lee Smith's book "The Permanent Coup" are informative tomes about the destruction of our Constitution and the free fall of our Republic. I do think that with the openly stolen election and current idiocy displayed for all the world to witness in our government people are starting to wake up to the fact that something very stinky has taken over our government.
 
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