Best custom action in 700 footprint

[urbanrifleman]

If you do not want a dual port or drop ( you really should) that opens you up to the other defiance models, and Kelbly atlas for other quality 700 foot print actions I would consider using for a Br level build.

Well my buddy may settle for a standard RBRP like a Remington (he like the Kelbly Atlas), but I figure if I am going custom I am getting a LPRB. And yes, I want a Remington footprint as I already have the stock and barrels and they work just fine.

Interesting bit of trivia, the integrated lug customs like the Borden and Rebel, effectively have an extra .25" of threads on the tenon. So, that is a bonus!!

 

[urbanrifleman]

Timing work is already done.

In reference to "timing". Do you mean the bolt handle is in the right place (you explained this in one of your excellent videos)? Or is it something else I don't understand.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Thread tenon length plays no role in accuracy. Another way to look at long tenons is they remove more steel from around the chamber. Either way good luck to you. Theres a few good options out there.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

In reference to "timing". Do you mean the bolt handle is in the right place (you explained this in one of your excellent videos)? Or is it something else I don't understand.

ignition timing, Bordens the only one. They close smooth without any resistance. Most others will have to be worked on.

 

[urbanrifleman]

ignition timing, Bordens the only one. They close smooth without any resistance. Most others will have to be worked on.

It is how the hammer gets cocked? Something is dragging in the firing pin? I am still not sure what the definition of "timing" is... Still seems to be a general term to do anything with the bolt. I have asked several people, and have yet to get a precise answer for "timing" work, and what it is.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

https://www.wheeleraccuracy.com/services-
2 kinds of timing. Ignition or tirgger timing and extraction timing. One is the location of the bolt handle, the other is re-working the action so it closes with one finger. I also make sure not to reduce firing pin fall to maintain accuracy. Untimed actions are unfinished IMO.

 

[urbanrifleman]

https://www.wheeleraccuracy.com/services-
2 kinds of timing. Ignition or tirgger timing and extraction timing. One is the location of the bolt handle, the other is re-working the action so it closes with one finger. I also make sure not to reduce firing pin fall to maintain accuracy. Untimed actions are unfinished IMO.

Excellent. Thank you for the response.

 

[powderbrake]

I can recommend the Stiller Predator V. It is not shown on the new website, but maybe they have them in stock. It is a RBLP single shot. I have it with a 20MOA rail. It is a Rem 700 footprint. I have mine in 6BR and it is a great shooter.

here is a link to the old site http://www.viperactions.com/actions/predator_special_detail.htm

 

[mgunderson]

Which of the custom actions use a solid bolt handle. It looks to me like most of them a brazed. Is there a reason for this?

 

[expiper]

Which of the custom actions use a solid bolt handle. It looks to me like most of them a brazed. Is there a reason for this?

the Kelbly bolt handles are HELI-arc -welded,,,,dont spend this kind of money till you examine one first hand,,,they are a work of art,,,,Roger

 

[urbanrifleman]

I have had several people PM me that most all custom actions need to be trued... with few exceptions.

Well, that was pretty eye opening...

 

[Alex Wheeler]

They should be checked, the ones I use and recommend are because I am consistently happy with them. I pick apart actions and have stopped using some of them out there. Kelbly, Bat, and Borden rarely get through QC with a problem. Thats not saying that you cant improve any action out there and different smiths like to do different things to tweak them.

 

[Papa Charlie]

I did a quick and dirty tally of the recommendations here. Assumed a mention was a recommendation. Might have assumed that some models were the manufacturer, so allow for error.

 

[urbanrifleman]

They should be checked, the ones I use and recommend are because I am consistently happy with them. I pick apart actions and have stopped using some of them out there. Kelbly, Bat, and Borden rarely get through QC with a problem. Thats not saying that you cant improve any action out there and different smiths like to do different things to tweak them.

Didn't you have Bat where the bolt was all out of whack in one of your videos?

 

[urbanrifleman]

Anyone taken a look at the new Kelbly Atlas?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Didn't you have Bat where the bolt was all out of whack in one of your videos?

Not out of true. Timing is not necessarily going to open up groups directly. However when your moving the gun in the bags due to clunk bolt cycle that can open your groups. And in the case of the older Bats I increase pin fall. The Atlas is a very good deal at the price they sell them for. Unmatched quality at that price point without a doubt.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Anyone taken a look at the new Kelbly Atlas?

I seen one of the first atlases maybe 7yrs ago- is that the new atlas you speak of or is there something newer?

 

[urbanrifleman]

I seen one of the first atlases maybe 7yrs ago- is that the new atlas you speak of or is there something newer?

https://www.kelbly.com/actions-steel-atlas-tactical.html

 

[urbanrifleman]

https://www.kelbly.com/actions-steel-atlas.html

 

[Damfino]

I have an Atlas Tactical, although it's a RBRP repeater in 6.5X47L. I like the versatility of the TG ejector and it's smooth, solid and for $925 at Bugholes.com it seems like a good value. I did have to make a minor modification in the bolt release area on the McMillan A5 that was previously used for a Remington 700.