Best Annealer ?

[Pres100]

Going to be a dumb question but can you use that Y fitting and hose setup with one of the smaller tanks?

Just thinking it would help save storage space for me and time adjusting the individual torch settings.

With a Y fitting, you would still have two torches regardless of the bottle size..... You would still have to adjust both torches. The Y fitting only gives you a single fuel source rather than two smaller separate ones.

 

[mshelton]

Going to be a dumb question but can you use that Y fitting and hose setup with one of the smaller tanks?

Just thinking it would help save storage space for me and time adjusting the individual torch settings.

With a Y fitting, you would still have two torches regardless of the bottle size..... You would still have to adjust both torches. The Y fitting only gives you a single fuel source rather than two smaller separate ones.

When I store the device now I have to take the torches off because of the bottles and lack of room, that's what I was hoping to solve with the Y-fitting, not having to remove them in storage and avoiding having to realign them.

 

[Pres100]

You should still be able to remove the smaller individual bottles without removing the actual torches and having to readjust. It would be the same as disconnecting two lines from a single source, no?
I would think the only storage difference would be a larger tank and hoses vs. two smaller bottles.
Sorry if I'm missing something.

 

[savagedasher]

Thanks guys . Larry

 

[michaelnel]

You should still be able to remove the smaller individual bottles without removing the actual torches and having to readjust.

I agree, that's what I do. The y-fitting two tube big tank thing really looks like a solution in search of a problem to me.

 

[joejo]

seems like now it wouldn't be a bad idea to check out the induction units. they seem way faster, no setup time and very compact.

kinda reminds me of when the magneto speed came out. people still talked about the ced units now everyone yaps about the magneto. sheez you can never keep up.

 

[Romulus]

Coming soon as a fitted unit. repeatable, fast, and walk away

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL4eNCgm-C8

Facebook thread: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=994343237799&set=gm.910847195614239&type=1&theater

 

[Jay Christopherson]

I wonder if he'll make the kit retro-fit his existing annealers, maybe with some minor work by the owner...

 

[truchot1]

Looks like you beat me to it, but my Giraud annealer showed up yesterday. Very very nice!!!

 

[Killshot]

David Dorris's Benchsource is the best in my opinion. The twin heads allow you to spread the focus of the heat which is needed for long-necked cases. It can do cases ranging from tiny .300BLK to the giant magnums with minimal adjustments. Both things the Giraud cannot.

Running both torch heads from a single 10 gallon tank allows for more consistent pressure (the small "keg" bottles will lose pressure over a long run requiring adjustment of the torch heads) One shouold NOT run an inline regulator, the valves of the Benzomatic torch heads regulate the pressure without limiting gas flow.

I've annealed over 150,000 cases for paying customers in the last four years and have yet to have a breakdown or problem of ANY kind. Would that all of our loading equipment be so well-made.

 

[Scott Harris]

Another benchsource fan, settled on it after buying the Ken Light, Ballistic Edge, and making an induction system. I use the 1lb tanks and they last a long time and are convenient to use. I'd suggest waiting a while before running out and getting any of the induction units. My experience was they overheated and the heating elements wore out quickly.

 

[boltfluter]

Scott,

Good info right there. Thank you. 8)

Regards, Paul

www.boltfluting.com

 

[fx77]

Something new coming down the pike...
Induction annealer by Giraud tool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL4eNCgm-C8

 

[lightman]

I did a little research before buying an annealing machine and settled on the Giraud. The selling point was that I could load the hopper and do something else. No, I don't leave it, but I do fill up the hopper and sit next to it and do other case prep chores. Its a little slower than the machines that have 2 or 3 torches, with maybe an 8 second cycle time. Caliber changes require you to change the plates that rotate and move the case. They are not very expensive and I can change them in a few minutes. I think there are 4 different sets and 3 will cover almost anything. A 1# bottle lase forever.

I have friends over for "case prep partys". Everyone brings their sized brass and we set up an assembly line. Someone feeds the annealing machine, someone trims, someone does primer pockets and someone does flash holes. I've run the Giraud for 8 hours at a time with no problems.

They all do a good job. Which ever one you choose will serve you well.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Plus the little fat bottles will last almost 9000-10000 rounds according to the maker !! Awesome machine !! Bench Source

I have a larger five gallon propane tank setup on our Bench Source. It takes a half gallon to do about 3000 rounds.

 

[Silverfox]

My Ken Light BC-1000 annealing machine works just great. It takes me a little while to adjust the torches, but when they are set the annealing process goes extremely fast. The flame adjusting process on these small bottles is tedious at best and sometimes they need adjusting which is a aggravating!!!

I'd estimate that I have annealed around 1,200 casings and I'm still on the first two 1-pound propane bottles.

If I were in the market to buy an annealing machine today, the one thing that might keep me from buying the Ken Light machine is that while the aluminum wheel I have today works great for my .17 Remington, .17 Tactical, and .204 Ruger casings, I would have to purchase an additional wheel but to anneal my .22-250 and .243 brass. Last time I checked I think those wheels were around $50 to $60. The BenchSource might be my choice today.

 

[Pres100]

for the adventurous DIY'rs here's a set of plans for building your own annealer

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bb_cm10J8urCM2PtKql8VyHtGlovTeI3RnAj7xa0eX0/mobilebasic?pli=1

 

[normmatzen]

I have been experimenting with induction heaters for annealing for the past year. Well, out comes the "ANNIE" and I have found the solution. This is the same heater Geraurd is using for his induction annealer on top of his case dispenser.
When a case is fully annealed in less than 2 seconds, do you really need a case dispenser? I'm thinking I will be able to anneal by hand about as fast as I could load the hopper, or at least darn close! Or, anneal and neck size both in nearly the time to just neck size!

 

[CatShooter]

The next step is to hook one up to something that is circular, and uses a feeder like the Dillon 1050... just dump a bunch of cases in and go do something else.

 

[michaelnel]

I don't think it is a good idea to do anything but pay attention when you have propane torches lit.