Berger packaging

[dkhunt14]

Do you have a pic of a “ding”?
My post wasn’t directed at you.
Kudo’s to you. Prayers for you and the wife.

I don't have a pic and i think it would be hard to get a pic. Sometimes they are hard to see and have to be held at the right angle to a light. Then I spin them in my fingers. I use them for early sighters now. The BR guys can get pretty fussy over their bullets, but i am looking, for 10 good ones for record. I am not looking for 40 or 80, whatever you guys shoot. I only need 10 good records and 3 good sighters. Matt

 

[nmkid]

There's always Swift bullets. When it comes to packaging, they go the extra mile. Each bullet is in its own compartment separated from the other bullets, no beating and banging around like those other brands. I bought a couple different types of 6.5s to try and one of them had a styrofoam insert and each bullet sat in it's own pocket. The other was like an
ammo box with plastic dividers.
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Elk killers!!

 

[Ned Ludd]

I don't have a pic and i think it would be hard to get a pic. Sometimes they are hard to see and have to be held at the right angle to a light. Then I spin them in my fingers. I use them for early sighters now. The BR guys can get pretty fussy over their bullets, but i am looking, for 10 good ones for record. I am not looking for 40 or 80, whatever you guys shoot. I only need 10 good records and 3 good sighters. Matt

As an F-Class shooter, my concern isn't so much with ~0.1 MOA precision, it's with culling those few bullets that are obviously defective, or that are gross outliers in some aspect. For that reason, I weigh bullets, but only to cull those that are obvious gross outliers. During the weighing process, I examine each bullet visually under a good light source, and by spinning in my fingers just as Matt described. In my hands, that seems to be sufficient to identify those with potential issues. If they're not too bad, they get used as foulers/sighters. Occasionally, you'll come across one that has deep folds on the nose, which also tend to be quite low in weight relative to the average. I've also found a few bullets by this process that had cracks in the jacket, or even what appeared to be an extra small fragment or layer of jacket stuck to the outside. It's pretty to "feel" these defects with your fingertips, making it easier to find and confirm them visually. I have yet to find a bullet that was obviously damaged due to packaging/shipment. That is not to say it can't happen, but my impression is that defects that arose during the manufacturing process are more common than those that might have happened during shipment.

 

[One Shot One Thrill]

As an F-Class shooter, my concern isn't so much with ~0.1 MOA precision, it's with culling those few bullets that are obviously defective, or that are gross outliers in some aspect. For that reason, I weigh bullets, but only to cull those that are obvious gross outliers. During the weighing process, I examine each bullet visually under a good light source, and by spinning in my fingers just as Matt described. In my hands, that seems to be sufficient to identify those with potential issues. If they're not too bad, they get used as foulers/sighters. Occasionally, you'll come across one that has deep folds on the nose, which also tend to be quite low in weight relative to the average. I've also found a few bullets by this process that had cracks in the jacket, or even what appeared to be an extra small fragment or layer of jacket stuck to the outside. It's pretty to "feel" these defects with your fingertips, making it easier to find and confirm them visually. I have yet to find a bullet that was obviously damaged due to packaging/shipment. That is not to say it can't happen, but my impression is that defects that arose during the manufacturing process are more common than those that might have happened during shipment.

Do you wear gloves or are you not concerned about the oils from your skin on the jacket?

 

[dkhunt14]

Do you wear gloves or are you not concerned about the oils from your skin on the jacket?

I believe the oil isn't as bad as the acid from some peoples systems. Matt

 

[Ned Ludd]

Do you wear gloves or are you not concerned about the oils from your skin on the jacket?

I know some people that handle their bullets with cotton gloves, but I'm not particularly concerned about it. I'm just weighing to find gross outliers and inspect the bullets for defects, neither of which is impacted significantly by any residue from my fingers. I do wipe seated bullets off with a cloth before putting them in the ammo box, but that's just habit and probably doesn't have much impact for my purposes, either.

 

[Ccrider]

So, touching the bullets with your fingers while loading affects accuracy?

 

[Thud]

The stuff you learn here

 

[GSS]

As an F-Class shooter, my concern isn't so much with ~0.1 MOA precision, it's with culling those few bullets that are obviously defective, or that are gross outliers in some aspect. For that reason, I weigh bullets, but only to cull those that are obvious gross outliers. During the weighing process, I examine each bullet visually under a good light source, and by spinning in my fingers just as Matt described. In my hands, that seems to be sufficient to identify those with potential issues. If they're not too bad, they get used as foulers/sighters. Occasionally, you'll come across one that has deep folds on the nose, which also tend to be quite low in weight relative to the average. I've also found a few bullets by this process that had cracks in the jacket, or even what appeared to be an extra small fragment or layer of jacket stuck to the outside. It's pretty to "feel" these defects with your fingertips, making it easier to find and confirm them visually. I have yet to find a bullet that was obviously damaged due to packaging/shipment. That is not to say it can't happen, but my impression is that defects that arose during the manufacturing process are more common than those that might have happened during shipment.

Ned,
Sorry if you posted this already but what brand / manf bullet are you finding these defects in?

This is the Berger thread so I could assume Berger but I have never seen a visually defective Berger bullet. I only shoot Service Rifle and shoot the Berger 73 gr hpbt's at 300, 75 VLD's, 80.5's or 82's at 600. I did weigh some Bergers but after weighing 20 - 30 of a few lots and seeing how excellent the consistency was I stopped.

I gotta know, what brand / manf bullet are you finding these defects in?

Thanks, George

 

[Dusty Stevens]

So, touching the bullets with your fingers while loading affects accuracy?

If you have sizing lube on them

 

[Ned Ludd]

Ned,
Sorry if you posted this already but what brand / manf bullet are you finding these defects in?

This is the Berger thread so I could assume Berger but I have never seen a visually defective Berger bullet. I only shoot Service Rifle and shoot the Berger 73 gr hpbt's at 300, 75 VLD's, 80.5's or 82's at 600. I did weigh some Bergers but after weighing 20 - 30 of a few lots and seeing how excellent the consistency was I stopped.

I gotta know, what brand / manf bullet are you finding these defects in?

Thanks, George

I've found the occasional defect in Berger bullets and Sierra bullets. Mind you, these are not commonplace issues, or else I'd return the bullets and have them replaced. We're talking about the oddballs that show up a few times in every Lot# of 1000 bullets. It could also be that the frequency is not the same for every bullet of every caliber. For example, some calibers/weights may be more susceptible to nose folds than others. That is why careful inspection and sorting is so critical; there is a very decent chance that even one of these bullets could wreck your score in a match.