Berger Juggernaut vs VDL

[hueydriver]

Want to try some 185gn Berger Bullets for my .308 FTR rifle. What is the difference between the VDLs and the Juggernaut bullets? My rifle is a Savage Model 12 FTR with a 29" Kieger barrel. No idea what the free bore is on the barrel or how to measure it.

Thanks

 

[dcali]

VLD's are pointier. Both will shoot well, but the Juggernaut is a better bullet and dominates the 185 grain class in TR, by a lot. Almost everyone shooting 185s shoots the Juggernaut.

 

[topsail86]

My Savage FTR with the stock barrel shoots factory Federal Gold Medal Match with the 185 Juggernauts very well out to 900 yards. That is as far as I have been able to shoot.

 

[284winner]

Never shot the jugs but the VLDs shoot phenomenally well in my 10 twist 308. Been wanting to get a box of jugs to see how the shoot. Still won't be able to feed from magazines but wouldn't mind trying some. Like to compare them to the VLDs.

 

[Ned Ludd]

VLD's are pointier. Both will shoot well, but the Juggernaut is a better bullet and dominates the 185 grain class in TR, by a lot. Almost everyone shooting 185s shoots the Juggernaut.

Are you sure that "pointier" is correct ballistic terminology?

 

[1611]

Jugs are less jump sensitive, transonic stable, hybrid ogive, which blends tangent and secant designs to optimize efficiency.

Plus they have a cool name.

They shoot well for me out of a factory 700 rifle. I can load them .010” off the lands and single feed them and get sub half minute 5 shot groups at 43.5 gr IMR4064 or load them mag length.150” jump at 43 gr and shoot 5/8” groups.

 

[dcali]

Are you sure that "pointier" is correct ballistic terminology?

My bad. They’re more pointy.

 

[Nature Boy]

I shoot the 185 Hybrids. A little more pointy than Juggs, a little less pointy than the VLDs

 

[Ned Ludd]

My bad. They’re more pointy.

I think the precise term is "way more pointier".

 

[D-4297]

I shoot both the Jugg , and the 185 Hybrid . The Jugg gets .010 off touch , and 44.2gr of 4064 , and the Hybrid gets .005 off , and 43gr of Varget . Lapua SRP brass . Rifle is a Kelby Panda with a 30" Kreiger 5r , .180 FB . The Jugg should shoot good for you , but you'll probably have to play with seating depth a little bit if you use the Hybrid . Tried the VLD's once . That was enough of using a modified hunting bullet for Target shooting , for me .