Berger bullet update

[barefooter56]

No problem.

Thanks!

 

[Jud96]

"Quite your bellyaching!!!!" Another graduate of the bud lite school of business management. Your advise over the years has been less than worthless. I can't put his name on the tip of my tongue but the other Berger rep that used to be on here at least tried.

At least there's a Berger rep telling you the low down of what is actually going on. Where's the Hornady rep? Where's Sierra or Nosler? I'm sure they're slammed with orders as is everyone else. Berger doubled production. Labor, machines, and tooling isn't free and it takes a lot of effort to double your production in that span of time. I get that people are irritated because they have to wait to get what they, but it appears they're trying. Don't think Hornady isn't focusing on ammunition more than reloading components, same goes for the others.

 

[Ned Ludd]

Thanks for your efforts, Phil (@barefooter56), they are appreciated by the majority of us. Frankly, I'm just happy to see reps from any company taking the time and interest to keep us informed. I am also fully aware that any product availability information we receive at an online shooting forum may or may not be dead nuts accurate. Nonetheless, I'd rather have the information than not. The rest of it I can take care of myself by planning ahead, and buying in quantity well before I'm about to run out of anything.

 

[AckleymanII]

Well, there goes a Grand at least!

 

[Steve Blair]

Even with carpet in the room where I make bullets, the 'floor bounces' go into the 'Foulers' box.

Al - I toured Berger's Mesa, AZ facility. They do much worse to them before shipping. It was revelatory.

 

[AlNyhus]

It would be really great if someone on this board would start manufacturing 80 grain 6 mm bullets. There are lots of guys making 68 grain bullets for benchrest shooters. Why can't somebody tool up for an 80?

Nothing to it but to do it. Dies, jackets, core wire and a little(?) labor. Heck, they'll practically jump out of the point dies and package themselves right up for 'ya.

Or you could hit the Easy Button and order the 80 gr. Dominators from Bart.

Dominator 80 grain boattail

The 80 gr Dominator Boattail is a 7/9 double radius bullet with an .060 meplat. This bullet is the brain-child of Dean and Brett Stroud who were looking for something that would work with their 6MM...

bartsbullets.weebly.com

Oh, that's right... you can't get jackets. Because you know they're going to all the bullets that that they are making that they aren't selling to reloaders.

The Capstone J4 deadline for orders for future delivery was June 1st. Order your jackets when you order your dies. Hint.....

Good shootin' -Al

 

[Acyr]

6.5 153.5 AUG THRU OCT 2023
.30 CAL 200gr HYB TGT JULY THRU AUG 2023
6.5 130 OTM HYB AT DEALERS NOW
.224 80 VLD-T JULY 2023
.30 CAL 200.20X HYB TGT OCT 2023
.30 CAL 155 VLD-H JUNE 2023

6MM 105 , 109 JACKEST ARE IN PRODUCTON NOW. NO WORD YEY ON WHEN THESE WILL GO INTO PRODUCTION

https://bergerbullets.com/find-a-dealer/dealer-webstores/ GET ON BACK ORDER AND NOTIFY LISTS HERE!

FYI = WE HAVE NOT BEEN STANDING STILL HERE. AS OF TODAY WE HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED OUR PRODUCTION . BUT WE HAVE A HUGE BACKLOG TO DIG THROUGH. SO WE ARE DOING OUR BEST EVERYDAY TO GET BULLETS OUT TO YOU! AND WALT WOULD BE PROUD. HIS GRANDSON IS THE HEAD OF BULLET PRODUCTION AND IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF UPHOLDING WALTS TRADITION OF QUALITY.
So quit yer bellyaching and get on the lists so you are in line for BERGER BULLETS when they hit our dealers!
If you need load data, load development help or any other kind of help with dies reloading ETC. COME TO US! NOT THE INTERNET at Support@capstonepg.com
Thank you for your support and understanding during this time !

Thanks Phil I for one appreciate your efforts.

 

[pappaw]

I know @pappaw Mr Bob, shoots them very well at 1000 !
Not sure Which ones he uses though.

208 eld match in a wsm works really well for me

 

[Clancy]

Nothing to it but to do it. Dies, jackets, core wire and a little(?) labor. Heck, they'll practically jump out of the point dies and package themselves right up for 'ya.

Or you could hit the Easy Button and order the 80 gr. Dominators from Bart.

Dominator 80 grain boattail

The 80 gr Dominator Boattail is a 7/9 double radius bullet with an .060 meplat. This bullet is the brain-child of Dean and Brett Stroud who were looking for something that would work with their 6MM...

bartsbullets.weebly.com

The Capstone J4 deadline for orders for future delivery was June 1st. Order your jackets when you order your dies. Hint.....

Good shootin' -Al

I’ve had 80s ordered from Bart for a very long time, and he doesn’t think he will ever get jackets again. Please, Bart, correct me if I’m wrong, but he’s said multiple times on here that he hardly used J4 jackets.

Don Lahr was still making 80s of both flat base and boat tail last I checked, at $800/1000.

 

[kneedtospeed]

208 eld match in a wsm works really well for me

 

[JB10]

Id like to see some 35gr 20 cal. I stocked up on them thank godand watched my shooting, but would love to pop some critters with them again.

 

[fp4]

Id like to see some 35gr 20 cal. I stocked up on them thank god and watched my shooting, but would love to pop some critters with them again.

THIS! , Every one I know is looking for these.

 

[fatelvis]

Berger 30cal 155.5gr Fullbore Target #30416

Product Information Caliber: 30cal Bullet Diameter: 0.308" Bullet Weight: 155.5 Grains OAL: 1.226" Bullet Style: Fullbore Target Recommended Twist Rate: 1 in 12" or faster G1 BC: 0.473 Part Number: 30416 Quantity: 100

www.bluecollarreloading.com

Berger 30cal 155gr Hybrid Target #30426

Product Information Caliber: 30cal Bullet Diameter: 0.308" Bullet Weight: 155 Grains OAL: 1.271" Bullet Style: Hybrid Target Recommended Twist Rate: 1 in 12" or faster G1 BC: 0.478 G7 BC: 0.245 Part Number: 30426 Quantity: 100

www.bluecollarreloading.com

What is the difference between Fullbore and Target, and Hybrid?

 

[Steve Blair]

What is the difference between Fullbore and Target, and Hybrid?

Berger has four target bullet lines:
Hybrid Target - A secant ogive with tangent blend at the bearing surface
Long Range Hybrid Target - A more aggressive version of the Hybrid Target that is factory pointed
Target - A conventional tangent ogive design
VLD Target - A secant ogive design
The 155.5 Fullbore is easy to tune and gives up very little BC to the 155 Hybrid Target. Either is a good choice.

 

[WVelkhunter]

Any .284 195gr elite hunters coming???

 

[JTEX]

Bellyaching? Did you really say that?

He did!

And I beg to differ on what Walt would be thinking!

 

[barefooter56]

What is the difference between Fullbore and Target, and Hybrid?

Steve Blair nailed it.

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

I'm sure a few of you received this message from Capstone
about Berger bullet production. Thought I'd post it.

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From the Production Floor Recently, we’ve made significant investments to increase capacity and get you more product! Along with several new bullet machines, there’s a need for more jacket manufacturing as well. The world’s best bullets start with a Berger 4 jacket held to .0003” Total indicated Runout (TIR). Carlos S., our “jacket guru”, is seen here completing the Herculean task for this new jacket machine – set-up and produce millions of 6mm jackets for our 105 Grain Hybrid Target and 109 Grain LRHT projectiles! Thank you for working your craft and giving 110%, Carlos!

​ ​ A few favorites running now: 22 cal 77 Grain OTM Tactical 22 cal 80.5 Grain Fullbore 6.5mm 135 Grain Classic Hunter 6.5mm 156 Grain Elite Hunter 7mm 168 Grain Classic Hunter 30 cal 200 Grain Hybrid Target Others over the next few weeks: 22 cal 80 Grain VLD Target 22 cal 85.5 Grain LRHT 6.5 130 Grain VLD Hunting 6.5mm 153.5 Grain LRHT 7mm 168 Grain VLD Hunting 30 cal 200.20x Hybrid Target 30 cal 230 Grain Hybrid Target

I assume part of the problem with getting 257 bullets is the scarcity of jackets for that caliber? Sierra has 30, 22 and 6mm jackets listed, and none are available. I guess the major producers in the world are working 24-7 to produce ammunition for governments and the Ukraine war has jumped the demand by several fold.

 

[urbanrifleman]

They are never going to catch up.

 

[kindabitey]

They are never going to catch up.

Probably not. I’ve moved on and exploring other options. Not saying I’ll never use Berger again, just not wasting time looking for something that doesn’t exist.