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Benchrest- overcast vs bright light conditions?

I am hesitant to add my two cents here simply because it might be that my experience, much of it based on shooting 45 years ago, might not be considered applicable today, but here it is anyway.
The difference between bright sun and a cloudy day is less a difference in the amount of light than it is a difference in the effect of more light and or heat. Tied into the effects of the light and heat is the accompanying movement of air.
Mirage is the most obvious effect seen on a sunny day and is what makes precise aiming difficult. On the plus side, it also lets you know what the air currents are doing. I have never had any desire to use more than a 36 power scope and have shot in many situations where I thought 24 was better. The reason I felt the 24 was better was because the greater depth of focus allowed me to see the mirage better, between me and the target. This was beneficial if I was to use the mirage to help me to read the windWith that out of the way, how would I aim? In the unlikely event that there was no wind at all, the mirage will cause the aiming point to bounce up and down, with the occasional hop to either side to keep things interesting. If group shooting, I always wanted my first shot to hit in a particular spot so I would hold where I thought would make that happen. In this case that would probably be a 6 oclock average. By 6 oclock average, I mean I would aim at the bottom of the mothball and would largely ignore the lateral hops the image made. It is my belief, in the case of a running or boiling mirage, the displacement of the target will amount to a maximum of 3/8 moa with 1/4 being more likely. If the mirage is boiuling straight up this is all I have to contend with.
If the mirage is running from left to right, I will hold at about 7:30 to allow for defraction plus whatever value I have decided to give the wind. If my rifle shoots well enough, I will, hopefully, learn more as the day progresses and be shooting better as time goes on. All too often, the reality is, I will learn nothing and appear more and more lost as the day goes on! This is how I deal with mirage (or not) for short range BR.
If shooting at long range, things are much the same except the effect of the wind is much greater. Displacement of the target by mirage is still about the same (1/4 to 3/8 moa) and is dealt with by holding off or by dialing in 1/4. In order to use the mirage as a wind indicator, you have to be able to see the mirage where you are trying to read the wind. since the trajectory of the bullet might be 6 to eight feet above the line of sight, at 1000 yds, you will want to try and read the mirage at this elevation at about 650 yards. You can do this with a spotting scope focused short or you can come close by focusing your riflescope a little short in order to see as much as you can without blurring the target too badly.
Today, it is common for competitors in short range BR to shoot a bunch of sighters in order to try and gauge conditions. I never do this and this may be why I am less successful than I was back in the day, or they might just be better than I am.
Maybe later, I'll talk about the effects of a non-running or non-boiling mirage or defraction. The displacement of the target can be much greater and it is much more difficult to read. You may see a beautifully clear image of the target with the only issue being that it is not there! WH
 
To combat the effects of nasty conditions, I’ve taken up the practice of shooting all my test rounds at one point of aim using about three rounds of each increment whether charge or seating etc. and simply color the tips with a sharpie , to identify each rounds impact I connect the dots with a pen. This alleviates the need to monitor each impact through the scope. I was introduced to this method and now use it almost exclusively. Reading the target isn’t any different or more difficult than other methods.
You can shoot them in color groups or round robin.
 

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I favor cloudy conditions, but sunshine is not a problem if it's at
your back. The range that I shoot with JEFFPPC has a nasty sun
in your face early on. Some have clamp on bench umbrellas, and
some like myself hang a towel from the beam above. Let me tell
you about the time I shot under the lights at night there. It was
a treat. I think the whole point is to have a relaxed sight, and no
squinting where your forced to move in and out of the eye box.
Never realized how bad my cataracts were until I went to a night match.
I use light yellow and green target paper, really helps on a bright day.
 
To combat the effects of nasty conditions, I’ve taken up the practice of shooting all my test rounds at one point of aim using about three rounds of each increment whether charge or seating etc. and simply color the tips with a sharpie , to identify each rounds impact I connect the dots with a pen. This alleviates the need to monitor each impact through the scope. I was introduced to this method and now use it almost exclusively. Reading the target isn’t any different or more difficult than other methods.
You can shoot them in color groups or round robin.
This is really neat. I gotta try it.
 
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UBR 2021 through my NF 15 -55
It's either 2 or 300 i can't remember
 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/254063299120
If someone wants to throw a couple of bucks at the problem. Lol!
Thanks for the link to the yellow filters that are available; I tried my yellow (gold) shooting glasses and that may have helped slightly but I have now decided that my problem is with cataracts and is a much bigger problem than what someone with normal eyesight has to deal with. I will have to do my benchrest load development on overcast days until I can get eye surgery. Best wishes, Clyde
 
How can you deal with that?
I see all of these winning tiny benchrest groups published, how is that possible?
This was a score match & I didn't that match ! Smdh lmbo ! I sucked !
Allot were saying "can't hit what you can't see" i got a zero on one because i didn't shoot it ... Couldn't tell. I Didn't turn down my scope.
After shooting a 6x scope for Hunter class this year i think I'll do better with the 15x55 turned down in the future.
 
Thanks for the link to the yellow filters that are available; I tried my yellow (gold) shooting glasses and that may have helped slightly but I have now decided that my problem is with cataracts and is a much bigger problem than what someone with normal eyesight has to deal with. I will have to do my benchrest load development on overcast days until I can get eye surgery. Best wishes, Clyde
Sir, I was just making a joke out of those cheap caps. I have no idea of there quality.
 
Previously I mentioned what I call still air mirage. This is light defraction which is practically unreadable and which can displace the target image as much as 1 moa. This occurs on rare occasions when the air is virtually still and cool. The defraction occurs when layers of different temperature air just lay there and undulate just a little. The effect is much like you would see looking through water, but not as pronounced.
I have watched as the target image, perfectly clear, would shimmer then re-appear a half minute high or low or whatever. A lot of the different layers of air were the result of hot gases from the rifles, or so it appeared to me. I set up a spare 24 on a tripod and watched as the target moved around and shooters gnashed their teeth when they shot a .6 in dead calm conditions. WH
 
Previously I mentioned what I call still air mirage. This is light defraction which is practically unreadable and which can displace the target image as much as 1 moa. This occurs on rare occasions when the air is virtually still and cool. The defraction occurs when layers of different temperature air just lay there and undulate just a little. The effect is much like you would see looking through water, but not as pronounced.
I have watched as the target image, perfectly clear, would shimmer then re-appear a half minute high or low or whatever. A lot of the different layers of air were the result of hot gases from the rifles, or so it appeared to me. I set up a spare 24 on a tripod and watched as the target moved around and shooters gnashed their teeth when they shot a .6 in dead calm conditions. WH
Very interesting couple of posts.
We can never learn enough on mirage.
Thanks for sharing.

George
 

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