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Barrel Life

coorslight

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Not to beat a dead horse here, but has anyone ever compiled a list of calibers and approximate barrel life for each under normal use. I know there are a lot of factors that can speed up average barrel life. Just curious. Thanks
 
Very "subjective & controversial" topic indeed. - Normal use in itself, for what ?
- A hunting rifle, PRS, F-Class, 1000 yard BR, Short range BR, VFS shooting, Personal enjoyment ?
- Not even to mention that varying batches of steel received by the barrel makers themselves can have a substantial impact on barrel life and quality.
In the "accuracy world" its been well touted that barrels are "a consumable item".

- Ron -
 
I asked Sierra bullets about barrel life in their testing facility for 5 varmint calibers I had at the time many years ago. A week or so later a gentleman there (Paul Box ?) answered my email . His figures were very close the round counts I got after his email. I thought mine would be lower since my loads were pretty much max loads but the numbers were real close. I try to keep a few spare blanks on hand when the numbers get close.
 
I came up with something a few years ago that helps some with this. I read in a ballistics book (Geoff something) that the maximum efficient case capacity for a given caliber was bore size squared times 1000. That works out to 95 gains for 30 cal, 80 grains for 7mm, 59 grains for 6mm.

Now I don’t remember what he meant by max efficiency, but it did give me and idea for a relative comparison. You just take the case capacity and divide it by bore diameter x 1000 to get a percent. That higher that percent the more overbore a chambering is and thus the lower the barrel life.

For example, a 300 WSM has a case capacity of 80 grains. 80 divided by 95 = 84%. A 7mm Rem Mag has a case capacity of 83 grains, and that works out to 102.5%. So based on that I would expect a 300 WSM to have better barrel life than a 7mm RM, assuming a similar shooting application. I think that assumption is true in reality.

There are exceptions, like the short necked .243 Win and 7mm RM vs the 6mm Rem and 7 STW; and likely other exceptions, but it does give a rough idea of what barrel life of one chambering might be like compared to another.
 
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Bore capacity, to me, is one grain of powder for each square millimeter of the bore cross section area. Increase charge 40% and barrel lives are halved; 100% and they're a fourth as much. Case capacity is something else.

Charge weights at bore capacity get about 3000 rounds of best accuracy for match rifles. That's when groups open up 50%. Service rifles barrel lives are 3 times as many rounds. Hunting rifles about 2 times as much. Got most of my data from Sierra Bullets' test barrel lives and NRA high power competitors.

Member mikecr modified this to include powder heat indices, I'll attach the link. He has improved my original.

http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/excel-formula-predicts-useful-barrel-life/

One has to establish conditions and standards first.
 
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We shot the 600 yd IBS match at manatee
Second small lite gun was done with a Savage that was 8 year plus unknown round count . Barrel life is a matter of how they are treated .
 
As probably with most year long shooters, I keep a precise record of the number of rounds fired through each rifle. This is not a study by any means but I will share the following data:

1. Had 222 Rem Model 700 with over 5,000 rounds through it. It still held a 1 1/2" at 100 yards. But because it was varmint rifle I rebarrelled to a 223 to get the groups down to the 1/2 moa range which is my preferred standard for a varmint rife.

2. Most of my 223's bolt rifles have between 1,000 to 3,000 rounds through them, all are shooting well under 1" at 100 yards.

3. I have a Rem 700 243 that currently has 3,749 rounds through it. Still holds 1 3/4" at 100 yards, good enough for deer rifle under the conditions I hunt but I plan to rebarrel this year. I like small groups too. :)

4. I had a 243 Rem 7 that had over 2,000 round through if I remember correctly. It still held about 1 1/2 to 2" at 100 yards but I started getting extreme flyers. Maybe it wore quickly due to the pencil thin factory barrel that heated quickly although I let the barrel cool between shots. I rebarrelled to a thicker barrel - it's a 1/2 moa rifle now.

5. My 308's have between 1000 and 300 rounds through them. Haven't seen any loss in accuracy but I don't shoot them
as much anymore.

6. My 22 250 started to open up after 2000 rounds and was no longer suitable for varmint hunting. I didn't rebarrel since I don't use a 22 250 anymore.

Note: I avoid shooting a hot barrel but somethings hot barrel shots are necessary in a hunting situation. I let the barrel cool between practice shots. Since I'm primarily a varmint / predator / deer hunter the cold barrel shot means the most to me. Also, I don't load to max. I clean after every 30 rounds using a rod guide and Dewey coated rod.

Obviously the requirements for a hunting rifle and the use is different than a target competition rifle so take that into account.
 
I had a 243 Rem 7 that had over 2,000 round through if I remember correctly. It still held about 1 1/2 to 2" at 100 yards but I started getting extreme flyers.
That's about normal.

Boots Obermeyer predicted 243's would get 1500 rounds accurate life in target rifles. That's what a national champion got with his.
 
This is my input . NRA Type Matches Prone Palma and 1000 yard .

The smaller the hole ( 6mm etc.) the Bigger the Burn ( amount of Powder) plus Bullet weight = Short Life.
 
I had one several years back that had an estimated barrel life of 7-800 rounds, it was a .22 caliber based on a 6.5X55 case. Along with my total dislike of neck turning and the short barrel life, I decided to get rid of it, and never looked back.
 
I think it depends a lot more on the cartridge you choose versus the caliber of the barrel.
Amen.

A 30 M1 carbine barrel will last longer than a 300 Weatherby barrel.

22 long rifle match barrel lasts about 30,000 + rounds, 22 PPC about 3000.
 
Not to beat a dead horse here, but has anyone ever compiled a list of calibers and approximate barrel life for each under normal use. I know there are a lot of factors that can speed up average barrel life. Just curious. Thanks
Need a matrix to include several rates of fire/ bbl temps
 
Need a matrix to include several rates of fire/ bbl temps
Across all the 308 Win barrels I've got about the same life with those fired once every 40 seconds in 15 to 25 shot strings and those fired once every 40 seconds the same plus once every 5 seconds in 10 shot strings 40% of the time.
 
I decided to keep on shooting my 6 bra. Gunsmith said it was still in very good condition after 1400 mid charged shots.
I went from 105's to 108's and at 100 yds it's shooting very well.
I'll see what it does at 600 when IBS starts back up around feb or march at piedmont. Gonna go for 2800 rounds !
New barrel is gonna sit for near a yr.
 
Thanks for all your input, I shoot Mid range (600yds) in F-Class, usually May to October In New Hampshire plus practices every week. I probably fire an average of about 500 rounds out of each gun, each season out of my .308, 6.5 creedmoor, .223 Remington, just started playing with a 6BR. Thanks again for the help.
 
The last overbore cartridge I had rebarreled I knew it was going to have a short life (7mmUltramag) so I just sent the gunsmith 2 barrels and told him to chamber them both and send it home when he was done. With the possible exception of the 30 BR any thing that the barrel is going to last a while on is not going to be very high performance and not much fun.
 
Over bore and too many shots with out cooling

Just a little over a year ago, I got into NBRSA Long Range Benchrrest. I do enjoy it a lot but shooting 3 Heavy Gun targets back to back nearly brings tears to my eyes. Such beautiful barrels so badly mistreated!
 

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