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Barrel length and width of accuracy nodes.

Mainly varmint profiles, wt 12+/-#, 24 to 26", 204 to 243, triggers mostlly in the 2# range, beavertail forends or b&c provarmint stocks. Also some sporter wt 700's up to 7mm 08.


hoppes-like adjustable front with protecktor owl ears, rear leather stacked on either a baseplate or flat sandbag for elevation adjustment.


not as described. triggers are all too heavy at 2#


i try o_O . the best results are when i get the rifle to ride straight back. no horizontal problems then. when rifle rotates up or twists ccw i feel i am losing control and target shows it.

thanks!
Chop house, where are you located?
 
Balance is most important when you have little contact with a rifle. If you are pulling your rifle into your shoulder that pretty much does away with the problem because it stabilizes the rifle. Another thing that can cause vertical is the shooter holding or pushing down on the rifle as he is shooting it. As the rifle goes off, the tendency is to try and control it from that direction and it will not be done the same for every shot. Other things that can cause vertical are bags that are too hard, or a load that is out of tune. I like to load at the range so I can try different combinations more easily. Years ago I had one of the Hoppes rests. I discovered that under recoil it would move around and lift a leg a little. IMO they are too light for serious work, although at the time is was a great improvement over no rest at all. You can probably devise a way to make it more stable, and I would encourage you to do that.
 
lift a leg a little

yep, been there. i put the stem thru a 5# gym wt. a couple of years back. i would double stack another wt but i have already impacted the height travel, and i don't have a 10# laying around.

i have experimented with bag fill, and also with adding various types of padding. I need such with sporter stocks, to fill in the ears rather than swap them on and off.

sooo, i guess that mostly leaves the shooter! (applying down force against the rear bag to get that last micro-radian of aiming correction). great point. maybe that's why when i am chrono testing (magnetspeed) i sometimes shoot better groups - as i am not staring a hole at the aiming dot and tensing up. (i always thought it was a 'tuner' phenomena.) i shall try to make sure my natural poa does not require trigger hand adjustments. Thanks

gunsand.... AL
 
yep, been there. i put the stem thru a 5# gym wt. a couple of years back. i would double stack another wt but i have already impacted the height travel, and i don't have a 10# laying around.

i have experimented with bag fill, and also with adding various types of padding. I need such with sporter stocks, to fill in the ears rather than swap them on and off.

sooo, i guess that mostly leaves the shooter! (applying down force against the rear bag to get that last micro-radian of aiming correction). great point. maybe that's why when i am chrono testing (magnetspeed) i sometimes shoot better groups - as i am not staring a hole at the aiming dot and tensing up. (i always thought it was a 'tuner' phenomena.) i shall try to make sure my natural poa does not require trigger hand adjustments. Thanks

gunsand.... AL
You should be able to do all of your minor aiming adjustments by squeezing your rear bag. I set up a little high on my intended point of aim, put the palm of my hand on the body of the bag, my thumb on one side of the base of the ears and two fingers on the other. Doing it that way I can make minor windage and elevation adjustments. Follow through is important. You need to maintain your hold on the bag until after the shot. One of the tricks is to set up a camera or phone to video you shooting from a side view. This will let you catch things that you were not aware that you were doing.
 
maintain your hold on the bag until after the shot.

I do use that technique, when my arthritic thumb allows. Too much golf and using a lee autoprime for decades wore it out, i guess. i had however forgotten the importance until you pointed it out. Makes me recall the moment 20 plus years ago... I let a buddy shoot one of my 700's and he was having trouble duplicating my groups... his words, as if he spoke them today... "i don't have that 'squeezing the rear bag' thing down yet". yep!

shot a nice round 10 shot group yesterday (ignoring the pain, putting more focus on left hand than right and removing my right thumb from the stock) that after one fouler put the remaining 9 into 0.615". production bbl savage in .204 on a slightly breezy day.

that's a good start, thanks again
 
get hooked really quick

the last match shooting i did was 1966 junior smallbore sectionals. i don't recall using hearing protection or ever cleaning our rifles. i do however recall coaches would ream us for sipping a coke, having sugary snacks, or using tobacco. now i can't hear, am headed toward cataracts, and am hooked on coffee.

like the old german saying... Ve get too soon oldt, und too late schmart. now that my faculties are failing, i am finally learning how to load good ammo.
 
the last match shooting i did was 1966 junior smallbore sectionals. i don't recall using hearing protection or ever cleaning our rifles. i do however recall coaches would ream us for sipping a coke, having sugary snacks, or using tobacco. now i can't hear, am headed toward cataracts, and am hooked on coffee.

like the old german saying... Ve get too soon oldt, und too late schmart. now that my faculties are failing, i am finally learning how to load good ammo.
Some years back when Eunice Berger beat all of us at a three day match at Visalia, CA. I told her that I was going to write an article about getting my ass kicked by a great grandmother ;-) I can't tell you how many outstanding old benchrest shooters I have known. When Tony Boyer developed arthritis in his left hand, he switched from bag squeezing to a Farley rest.
 
There is not a magic length I have had barrels up to 30in that shoot and as short as 26in they were all 1000 yd rifles 17lb its all what you need they all are like a turning fork you just have to get them to vibrate the same ever time. longer gives you more speed but if your action can't handle it it won't do any good to have a longer barrel I like 28in on my 1000yd rifle some I have seen on Fclass rifles up to 32in
 

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