Barrel cleaning

[Clancy]

When you clean down to bare metal, how many shots does it take for the barrel to shoot good?

I follow up cleaning with a patch of lock ease. First shot is about 40 fps slow but at the point of aim.

I would say 2 shots max for me

 

[1911nut]

Exactly’ and without giving away any secrets, I’ve learned to do the same thing. I went all weekend at the nationals without cleaning and my last groups were as good as my first groups.

How many shots?

 

[JFrank]

How many shots?

84

 

[JFrank]

Interesting. What kind of match?

IBS 1k

 

[precision1]

Interesting. What kind of match?

Hmmm crawl back to your tiny 100 yrd hole boring.lmao
Easy

 

[JFrank]

Of course, it also depends on the level of accuracy you need.

Bring everything you got and hope it’s enough, it’s a tuners game but also a shooters game , if you get my drift. You pull the trigger at the wrong time .. you’re out and just drove a long ways for nothing.

Jim

 

[Pareto]

I've read Thorroclean is a sort of diluted Iosso. I have both and definitely find it easier to clean with Thorroclean than Iosso. Is there any way to dilute Iosso to make it more useful?

 

[Raydee]

I've read Thorroclean is a sort of diluted Iosso. I have both and definitely find it easier to clean with Thorroclean than Iosso. Is there any way to dilute Iosso to make it more useful?

Sure just buy Thorroclean

 

[Pareto]

Well I don't wanna waste the Iosso I have on hand. As noted, I have both.

 

[ELR LVR]

Since I started shooting F Class cleaning my rifles had been a pain. I clean them back to bare metal, checking with a bore scope until it’s clean. Everyone has their own secret witches brew and I had what worked best for me too. But. I watched f class John’s review of thorough clean and figured I had wasted money on worse stuff. I wasn’t ready for what happened. I followed instructions on the package with the exception of using a 30 cal brush instead of the 7mm bore size. In 15 minutes my barrel was clean. No waiting no soaking. No 27 steps. Figured I would put this out there if you fought cleaning like I do. Here is before and after pictures of my PRC W barrel. The carbon ring was also removed without any extra effort.

Did you mic your brush?
Thats what I do
I make sure my bristles extend beyond the dia of the bore dia.
I think this is most important
Say if you have a 224 cal brush, and after a few uses using your calipers the dia only measures .222"
it will never get the bore completely clean inside the grooves
Whereas with a new brush, it may be .233" dia. for a .224" bore
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Is it possible
your 7mm brush was used? or that its dia. was not beyond .284"?
Anyway, good advice you have shared here
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Clean your brushes well after each use and the bristles will last longer

 

[ELR LVR]

Exactly’ and without giving away any secrets, I’ve learned to do the same thing. I went all weekend at the nationals without cleaning and my last groups were as good as my first groups.

Is that with your 6 BR?

 

[coldboreshot]

This is a method that was presented to me many years ago by an accomplished and distinguished shooter which I still use to this day...

Never clean down to bare metal repetatively, unless going to store a barrel/rifle for a long period of time. Cooper is not an enemy up to a certain point when aspects on target change.

Use good carbon cleaner frequently and maintain good chamber and bore (carbon rings). Leave copper laid down in the bore to fill any micro-fissures and set a "signature" of the lands/grooves. When aspect on target changes, time to do a bore polishing, JB, Iosso, your choice. Can't go by exact round count, it varies through different barrels.

At that point, you should know what your round count will be to refoul if neccessary. Again, some barrels may not require any.

I have used his method for a long time with great results.
I'm sure there will be many counter-points but this has worked very well for me over the years.

 

[HTSmith]

Lots (prolly all) of folks on here with more experience than me, but I can tell you that you can clean a good shooting barrel right out of tune.

 

[M-61]

Do a site search.
Read everything ever written regarding cleaning

 

[ELR LVR]

Lots (prolly all) of folks on here with more experience than me, but I can tell you that you can clean a good shooting barrel right out of tune.

Right, there's an equilibrium point of copper fouling
usually it's a thin line of copper down the groove
not the full width of the groove mind you
just a thin line usually in the center
takes maybe 5 mintues to clean to that point then go back to shooting
otherwise youre wasting fouler shots to get that back in there

 

[coldboreshot]

Exactly’ and without giving away any secrets, I’ve learned to do the same thing. I went all weekend at the nationals without cleaning and my last groups were as good as my first groups.

^^^^^^*Pay attention to this statement*

 

[coldboreshot]

During match events, at the end of each day or back at the hotel, a moist patch and several dry patches to snatch any loose partuculate.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I've read Thorroclean is a sort of diluted Iosso. I have both and definitely find it easier to clean with Thorroclean than Iosso. Is there any way to dilute Iosso to make it more useful?

Mistyrkool Apr 26, 2024 Add bookmark #69 Try mixing a tube of Iosso paste with 2oz of their triple action oil and use by stroking bore with patch. Using an Iosso brush is also very effective. Dry patch and follow with alcohol on patch. Check it with your bore scope, it's very effective...I follow with Patch Out and Accelarator and allow to sit overnight. Copper and carbon gone.... Like Like Reply Report
Later in this thread he said to shake it up before each use.

 

[Hoekight]

Lots (prolly all) of folks on here with more experience than me, but I can tell you that you can clean a good shooting barrel right out of tune.

I tune mine with a clean barrel. I clean it back to bare metal every time I shoot it. Is there such thing as copper equilibrium, I’m not sure. Will a dirty barrel shoot good, probably. I can’t keep a dirty barrel constantly dirty. I can’t keep a constant amount of copper in my barrel. I can keep keep it perfectly clean at the beginning of an f class match to shoot 60 record shots. I know what to expect from it and if it goes out of tune in the middle of a match I can know it’s not a cleaning problem. I’m not arguing anyone’s cleaning regiment. If your rifle will shoot dirty go for it. My post really wasn’t meant for any other purpose than to say I found something that drastically reduced the time it took me to clean mine. Thorough Clean is a time saver for my process. Which just happen to be bare metal after each time I practice or shoot in a match. Your barrel and mileage may vary.

 

[HTSmith]

I tune mine with a clean barrel. I clean it back to bare metal every time I shoot it. Is there such thing as copper equilibrium, I’m not sure. Will a dirty barrel shoot good, probably. I can’t keep a dirty barrel constantly dirty. I can’t keep a constant amount of copper in my barrel. I can keep keep it perfectly clean at the beginning of an f class match to shoot 60 record shots. I know what to expect from it and if it goes out of tune in the middle of a match I can know it’s not a cleaning problem. I’m not arguing anyone’s cleaning regiment. If your rifle will shoot dirty go for it. My post really wasn’t meant for any other purpose than to say I found something that drastically reduced the time it took me to clean mine. Thorough Clean is a time saver for my process. Which just happen to be bare metal after each time I practice or shoot in a match. Your barrel and mileage may vary.

I'm glad you posted and not taking issue at all. What you are doing makes sense.