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Barrel Break-In

Roughness in a custom lapped barrel?
Precisely,
as I mentioned, the barrel makers themselves agree break in is not necessary for this one reason alone.
(Unless you insist on one, then they will give you one to patronize you and help you wear out your barrel faster to sell you another one, I mean hey, you're the one who asked for it right?)
This falls into one of those
"This is the way I've been doing it for 30 years and I don't care what you tell me I'm going to keep doing it that way by golly jeepers!!!"

If firing a few 20 shots does anything very easily after lapping smooth and removing tooling marks?
I'd be more worried barrel life would only last 400 shots
 
like what I said my opinion when I brake in an around 100 or so rounds most barrels kreiger or bartlin I can get them to shoot small I shoot indoor range for my testing it works for me my two cents and it depends on the chamber reamer an the finish iron out possibly a burr in the lead area that so I shoot an clean
 
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Roughness in a custom lapped barrel? I have seen people using the term seasoning. Not trying to be a wise ass, but what exactly is seasoning the steel?

AI says this about seasoning steel in a rifle barrel. I’m certain that it doesn't speak from experience, but it sounds good.

In the context of breaking in a rifle barrel, “seasoning the steel” refers to the process of conditioning a new or freshly cleaned barrel to optimize its performance, accuracy, and longevity. This break-in process involves firing a series of rounds while cleaning the barrel at specific intervals to smooth out microscopic imperfections in the bore, remove manufacturing residues, and create a more consistent surface for bullet travel. The term draws an analogy to seasoning a cast-iron skillet, where repeated use and care create a smooth, non-stick surface.


Here’s a breakdown of what “seasoning the steel” entails in this context:


1. Smoothing the Bore: New rifle barrels often have tiny burrs, machining marks, or rough spots from the manufacturing process. Firing rounds and cleaning the barrel helps polish these imperfections, reducing fouling and improving consistency.


2. Copper Fouling Reduction: When bullets are fired, they deposit copper and other residues in the bore. The break-in process helps establish a smoother surface that minimizes excessive copper buildup, which can affect accuracy.


3. Thermal Conditioning: Firing and cleaning cycles allow the barrel to gradually adapt to the heat and stress of shooting, potentially reducing stresses in the steel and promoting uniform wear.


4. Accuracy Optimization: A properly seasoned barrel can achieve more consistent bullet velocities and tighter groupings, as the bore’s surface becomes more uniform and predictable.


Typical Break-In Process


While specific procedures vary depending on the manufacturer or shooter’s preference, a common break-in process might look like this:


• Fire 1-3 shots, then clean the barrel thoroughly to remove copper fouling and debris.


• Repeat for several cycles (e.g., 5-10 single shots or small groups, cleaning after each).


• Gradually increase the number of shots between cleanings (e.g., 5-shot groups, then 10-shot groups) over 20-50 rounds.


• Use quality ammunition and clean with a bore brush, patches, and a copper solvent to ensure a clean barrel.


Notes


• Manufacturer Guidance: Some barrel makers, like Krieger or Bartlein, provide specific break-in instructions, while others, like Shilen, suggest minimal or no break-in for their hand-lapped barrels.


• Debate in the Community: The necessity of barrel break-in is debated. Some shooters believe it’s critical for precision rifles, while others argue modern manufacturing techniques (e.g., hand-lapping) make it less necessary.


• Context Matters: “Seasoning the steel” is most relevant for high-precision rifles (e.g., benchrest or long-range shooting) where small improvements in accuracy matter. For general-purpose rifles, the benefits may be less noticeable.
 
AI says this about seasoning steel in a rifle barrel. I’m certain that it doesn't speak from experience, but it sounds good.

In the context of breaking in a rifle barrel, “seasoning the steel” refers to the process of conditioning a new or freshly cleaned barrel to optimize its performance, accuracy, and longevity. This break-in process involves firing a series of rounds while cleaning the barrel at specific intervals to smooth out microscopic imperfections in the bore, remove manufacturing residues, and create a more consistent surface for bullet travel. The term draws an analogy to seasoning a cast-iron skillet, where repeated use and care create a smooth, non-stick surface.


Here’s a breakdown of what “seasoning the steel” entails in this context:


1. Smoothing the Bore: New rifle barrels often have tiny burrs, machining marks, or rough spots from the manufacturing process. Firing rounds and cleaning the barrel helps polish these imperfections, reducing fouling and improving consistency.


2. Copper Fouling Reduction: When bullets are fired, they deposit copper and other residues in the bore. The break-in process helps establish a smoother surface that minimizes excessive copper buildup, which can affect accuracy.


3. Thermal Conditioning: Firing and cleaning cycles allow the barrel to gradually adapt to the heat and stress of shooting, potentially reducing stresses in the steel and promoting uniform wear.


4. Accuracy Optimization: A properly seasoned barrel can achieve more consistent bullet velocities and tighter groupings, as the bore’s surface becomes more uniform and predictable.


Typical Break-In Process


While specific procedures vary depending on the manufacturer or shooter’s preference, a common break-in process might look like this:


• Fire 1-3 shots, then clean the barrel thoroughly to remove copper fouling and debris.


• Repeat for several cycles (e.g., 5-10 single shots or small groups, cleaning after each).


• Gradually increase the number of shots between cleanings (e.g., 5-shot groups, then 10-shot groups) over 20-50 rounds.


• Use quality ammunition and clean with a bore brush, patches, and a copper solvent to ensure a clean barrel.


Notes


• Manufacturer Guidance: Some barrel makers, like Krieger or Bartlein, provide specific break-in instructions, while others, like Shilen, suggest minimal or no break-in for their hand-lapped barrels.


• Debate in the Community: The necessity of barrel break-in is debated. Some shooters believe it’s critical for precision rifles, while others argue modern manufacturing techniques (e.g., hand-lapping) make it less necessary.


• Context Matters: “Seasoning the steel” is most relevant for high-precision rifles (e.g., benchrest or long-range shooting) where small improvements in accuracy matter. For general-purpose rifles, the benefits may be less noticeable.
Burrs in a lapped barrel? What makes a new barrel copper?
 
Thank you, guys, you have given me different thoughts and ideas on barrel break-in. It's all a matter of opinion (which I knew). However, I will stick with what I was planning and hope for the best. I like the idea of not having to do fouling shots appeals to me best. At the end of the year, I will do an Indepth barrel cleaning and then before the next varmint season, I will foul and confirm accuracy!
 
First off, I didn’t say there were burrs. Second, since you asked, I would opine that any roughness in a barrel would be left from the chambering process.
1. Smoothing the Bore: New rifle barrels often have tiny burrs, machining marks, or rough spots from the manufacturing process. Firing rounds and cleaning the barrel helps polish these imperfections, reducing fouling and improving consistency.
 
Thank you, guys, you have given me different thoughts and ideas on barrel break-in. It's all a matter of opinion (which I knew). However, I will stick with what I was planning and hope for the best. I like the idea of not having to do fouling shots appeals to me best. At the end of the year, I will do an Indepth barrel cleaning and then before the next varmint season, I will foul and confirm accuracy!
In any barrel, custom or otherwise, you will need a certain amount of fouler shots before it starts to group.
Every barrel will be different on this.
It may only require 3 , or may need 10 before you can resume load analysis and gauge actual precision.
Just an FYI
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I am mainly speaking of cleaning down to bare steel
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Many years ago I found a new Krieger pretty much shoots well right off the bat
So I skipped over the 1 shot, clean, 1 shot, clean method.
Since all those 1 shots, arent doing anything useful for me other than providing a velocity check.
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I also have not found they clean any easier later on in life after conducting a 1 shot, clean method
vs going straight to shooting it and doing load development
 
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1. Smoothing the Bore: New rifle barrels often have tiny burrs, machining marks, or rough spots from the manufacturing process. Firing rounds and cleaning the barrel helps polish these imperfections, reducing fouling and improving consistency.

You do realize that I didn’t write that don’t you? As stated, it was copy and pasted out of AI because asked it what it had to say about seasoning barrel steel.

I’ll edit to add that I thought it backed up your argument in that many believe break in to be unnecessary in a quality hand lapped barrel albeit in a less snarky manner
 
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One last question! Are the premium manufactures barrel blanks lapped?
Most all premium barrel makers worth spending your money on
Lap their barrels
The ones that do I notice advertise this fact.
Since it is very important advertising for their product.
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I doubt though they lap them to the extent I would lap them for myself.
(I've lapped a few and min. time is half hour, up to 2 hours)
(There's just too much time involved with progressively finer grits to lap each and every barrel to perfection ya know)
Meaning they likely only lap them enough to smooth out tooling marks and remove burrs.
 

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