Barnard S Vs P?

[TrxR]

Which would you pick of a .223 F/TR? What are the pros and cons between the two?


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[effendude]

I love my (2) P models, one is F-Open currently in a 284 Shehane, the other is a switch bolt/barrel F-TR in .223 and .308. Waiting on the .223 barrel to be done.

I love the P models' trigger, and the action is one smooth work of art. There is no doubt to the strength and rigidity of the action. I know others like the S model for the weight savings and the ability to put a Jewell or whatever in. The fact that the S drops into Remington inlets, at least theoretically, is a point in its favor too.

I don't think you can go wrong with either.

Scott

 

[TrxR]

What recoil lug options are there for the S?

 

[peter6mm]

I have two P's (6br & 6.5 x 55) and 1 SM (.308). I suggest you think about what else you may want to use the rifle/action for, now and in the future. The advantage of the P is you can change the barrel or make it a switch barrel in the future to most other calibres if .223 does not work out for you. You can purchase a second bolt with different bolt face if needed (OK it costs but they will be interchangeable). Of course you can do the same with the S or SM but it may not handle some larger cartridges quite as well as the P.

For me the choice was more between what else I wanted to use the rifle for. For single shot comps I chose the P over the S because it can better handle larger calibres. For the potential to use the rifle in single and multi-shot mag fed comps I chose the SM. For F-class TR I use the SM in .308. and use the same rifle with the AI 10 round mag for speed comps.

Hope this helps you think through your choices.

 

[NateHaler]

Which would you pick of a .223 F/TR? What are the pros and cons between the two?


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Whichever one you can find first. Barnard availability isn't what it used to be.

 

[6BRinNZ]

Which would you pick of a .223 F/TR? What are the pros and cons between the two?


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With respect to FTR - weight is the biggest issue - in this case an S is lighter than the P. An S doesn't have the same rigidity as a P (Barnards words) but either is way more - than adequate.

http://www.barnard.co.nz/

 

[RDavies]

I went with a S for my F/TR because we cant use a barrel heavy enough to cause any rigidity problems with this action and still stay in the weight limits. With the weight saved in the action I can get 1 profile thicker barrel.
I like the Kelbly trigger which I use in this action as well. Another reason I switched to an S action for my F/TR gun is that Ive been told the S action feeds these slimmer cases better.

With the much thicker barrels I use in F Open, I like my big P action, which I switch between 284 and short mag.

 

[TrxR]

What barrel contour are you using? I was thinking of going with a 30" heavy Palma. I am debating of going with the .308 instead of the .223 now but am not certain yet.

 

[RDavies]

Mine is a 32" heavy Palma. If I change to a lighter bipod, I,m hoping to be able to get the next step heavier profile next time.

 

[6BRinNZ]

I went with a S for my F/TR because we cant use a barrel heavy enough to cause any rigidity problems with this action and still stay in the weight limits. With the weight saved in the action I can get 1 profile thicker barrel.
I like the Kelbly trigger which I use in this action as well. Another reason I switched to an S action for my F/TR gun is that Ive been told the S action feeds these slimmer cases better.

With the much thicker barrels I use in F Open, I like my big P action, which I switch between 284 and short mag.

What stock and bipod are you using with the Barnard S currently (FTR)?

 

[RDavies]

I went with a S for my F/TR because we cant use a barrel heavy enough to cause any rigidity problems with this action and still stay in the weight limits. With the weight saved in the action I can get 1 profile thicker barrel.
I like the Kelbly trigger which I use in this action as well. Another reason I switched to an S action for my F/TR gun is that Ive been told the S action feeds these slimmer cases better.

With the much thicker barrels I use in F Open, I like my big P action, which I switch between 284 and short mag.

What stock and bipod are you using with the Barnard S currently (FTR)?

My stock is not conventional, an Anschutz 1903 rimfire stock, light, stiff, dead and great ergonomics.
My bipod is a Davies F/TR bipod with rear adjustment.

 

[6BRinNZ]

I went with a S for my F/TR because we cant use a barrel heavy enough to cause any rigidity problems with this action and still stay in the weight limits. With the weight saved in the action I can get 1 profile thicker barrel.
I like the Kelbly trigger which I use in this action as well. Another reason I switched to an S action for my F/TR gun is that Ive been told the S action feeds these slimmer cases better.

With the much thicker barrels I use in F Open, I like my big P action, which I switch between 284 and short mag.

What stock and bipod are you using with the Barnard S currently (FTR)?

My stock is not conventional, an Anschutz 1903 rimfire stock, light, stiff, dead and great ergonomics.
My bipod is a Davies F/TR bipod with rear adjustment.

Thanks - I have been having trouble finding a good combination that will work with the Barnard.