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Barking dog

So your dogs barks. That's what dogs do. They bark. pee and poop. Get used to it.

Hanging a collar on your best friend and zapping him because he does what all dogs do seems to be cruel. Tell you what you should do before you hang one of these devices around your dogs neck. Put it around your own neck and try it.

Best friend??? Does what all dogs do???? Not quite that simple. I don't want to pi$$ with you, but not ALL dogs are the same. I don't think these folks are talking about a dog that might bark on occasion at something that interests him.
I have owned, bred and trained coon and bird dogs for 40 years. Some are calm and easy going and almost never bark in a kennel or enclosure {fenced yard, etc.}. Some see squirrels, cats, etc. and bark at them. Some are slap idiots that start "treeing" a butterfly that flies by and 4 hours later they are still "treed"....this type dog is nervous and high strung and will pace back and forth in the kennel all night and half the next day. This dog is no ones best friend, not until they are taught better.
If handled properly they might make it and become a valuable dog. Most of the time they end up mistreated and passed from one owner to the next until they end up in a pound somewhere. A shock collar can make the difference between success with a dog and a death sentence. The death sentence might not be so bad if it was instant and done with, but again, what I have seen happen time and time again is that this type dog gets bounced around and mistreated way too long first.
Consider a dog running deer. Is it better to train him with a shock collar not to do it, or see some intolerant landowner train him permanently with a rifle????
There is of course an issue of "proper use of the collar". An e-collar is a powerful tool and many "trainers" turn it right up on the highest setting, that IS NOT WHERE YOU START, unless you want to ruin your dog. The better collars today will first tone {an audible ding} which is a warning shot across his bow. Some also vibrate, which is even better because they not only hear it but feel it before delivering the shock. Most dogs do not need to feel pain from the highest setting. No good trainers that I know of will go right to that setting either.
 
To reiterate msinc's well put post, my dog was being a jerk when we were gone. I purchased the collar I did to explicitly find the point where correction too place, no further. First day on "automatic" or progressive, 120 corrections in 9 hours. Move it to "1". 110 the next day. so on ans so on until we are at "3" and we get 5 corrections. Keep it there for another day, then back to "auto". Usually less than 5 in a day now, often zero or 1.

I grew up in the country on a dead end gravel road. We let our dogs run and appreciated the barking to warn us of people or varmint. The suburbs is not a place for that level of vigilance.
 
I have 2 Jack Russell's. Needless to say they are very vocal. They come to work with me 4 days a week. Ella, the female, has ,and always will have, separation anxiety but it has abated somewhat since I got the youngest Bodie. At the first of the week, they raise Cain at the first guy that walks in the shop. By midday they have become accustomed to folks coming and going and they will ignore everyone. While this is annoying, I know this their nature. Bodie, however, has developed a weird habit, on the ride to work, he freaks out over cows, horses and people walking near the road. I have tried a collar, which helps a little. He also freaks out if I get out of the truck to unlock the shop. I have to leash him to the seat. He looses his mind every time. Today, he will ride in a Carrier. I hate it but I am afraid he is gonna cause me to wreck with his antics. Trained a lot of dogs. This little guy is a great buddy but stubborn as hell.
 
I have never met a Jack Russel I didn’t like.
I have never met a Jack Russel that couldn’t benefit from some meds.

I don’t care for shock collars, but I have used them. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a dog that communicates well with them.

I had English Pointers for years. I spent a lot of time with them prior to bird season. Hard headed and deaf.
Always found it amazing amongst EP owners there were usually two favored names, SOB and MF’r. Opening day there was always at least two guys hollering come here you SOB or MF’r.

Have a German Wirehair now. Amazing nose,drive to please with a good attitude, yet very protective of me and anything she deems hers. Selective hearing, yup. I swear I have seen her try to get her middle two up at times, now I just get “the look”.
I am glad I belong to her.
 
......I have never met a Jack Russel that couldn’t benefit from some meds.......

Say hello to "Max". He is the coolest, calmest, best behaved Jack Daniels I have ever seen. If I get a bad hit on a woodchuck and it makes it back to the den he will go in get it and present it to me. And he's never long at getting the job done. Except for the very first one. He was not quite full grown and chased one into a den, he didn't come out for a good half hour or so...I had to walk an excavator over to the site and dig him out. I figured he would be dead by then, but once freed and into the light he killed that one too. Never had a collar on him and he only barks when he has a good reason....once in a while I luck out!! He's 12 years old now and still acts like a puppy. Max.JPG P1020399 (800x600).jpg
 
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I managed a pet store for a number of years. Our training and obedience classes always started off with no dogs. Training means everyone in the household is on the same page.

The biggest problem I see with chihuahuas and other small pet breeds (non working dogs) is owners treating a 3 year old dog like a "puppy" and never actually training it. Structure and discipline start from day one at home (typically 8weeks) and with a young pup trained right, it normally takes only a few weeks for the basics and maybe a couple months for some more advanced training like down-stay.

Also, I'm a big advocate for training a dog only for what you need it for. Does a chihuahua need to know how to point, fetch, drop, etc? Probably not. But, house train it, teach it to not run out the front door, or to jump on people and the basics. But, a GSP will need more training for use in the field. Also, never buy tug-of-war toys for a bird dog. You'll know why first time in the field.

E-collars are useful and effective if used correctly from the beginning. Eventually, many dogs know when they have the collar on and it doesnt even need to be turned on. It's a way to get their attention immediately and correct the behavior.
 
So your dogs barks. That's what dogs do. They bark. pee and poop. Get used to it.

Hanging a collar on your best friend and zapping him because he does what all dogs do seems to be cruel. Tell you what you should do before you hang one of these devices around your dogs neck. Put it around your own neck and try it.


My dogs don’t bark or they get a size 13!.. have multiple cattle dogs and they don’t bark I won’t allow it! Only unruly dogs bark! Unruly kids spout off at the mouth and unruly dogs bark, both can easily be trained in the same manner .
Wayne
 
My dogs don’t bark or they get a size 13!.. have multiple cattle dogs and they don’t bark I won’t allow it! Only unruly dogs bark! Unruly kids spout off at the mouth and unruly dogs bark, both can easily be trained in the same manner .
Wayne
Truer words were never spoken, compadre. "Spare the rod and spoil the child." That's largely why our young snowflakes are out acting "brave" in the progressive cities' streets, knowing the jolt ain't coming.
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The biggest problem I see with chihuahuas and other small pet breeds (non working dogs) is owners treating a 3 year old dog like a "puppy" and never actually training it.
An older musician I worked with long ago invited me one time only into his home. He and his wife had a snarling Chihuahua. "He won't bite as long as you keep your hands well up in your lap while seated." I sat down and dutifully crossed my hands over my belly button. The dog leaped up and bit me on a little finger. Only then did they put him away in a side room. They feigned mortification, naturally, but I think they were inwardly proud of the little devil.
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Buy an inexpensive boom box and loudly play some kind of music he doesn't like for several hours. It probably won't have any effect on the barking whatsoever, but at least you'll have gained some measure of reprisal.
 
Buy an inexpensive boom box and loudly play some kind of music he doesn't like for several hours. It probably won't have any effect on the barking whatsoever, but at least you'll have gained some measure of reprisal.
I think a boom box for the neighbors who won’t keep their dogs from barking. at 1 to 4 am of coarse likes been said
 
Are you talking about shutting up your neighbor's dog? Would be nice to be able to use one of those devices made for rodents, I don't think they have developed one for yappy little dogs yet....:D.

Regards
Rick
Yeah that’s what I need- way to many barking dogs around my neighborhood.
 
I purchased one of the noise generators that responded to a bark, and it did work to some degree for a while, but it quit working after only a few months. Five dogs, all the barkiest kind. Poodles and chihuahuas and a neighbor who didn't care.

A sound generator, an amplifier and speaker, a program to generate random high pitched sounds at random intervals between 1 and 4 am. When your neighbor starts losing sleep, the dog will get properly trained.

If that seems like a lot of work, you might mention to your neighbor that dogs generally bark when the owner is away. I always knew when my neighbors had left for the weekend because their dogs were out in the yard at night and barking all night long at every leaf that blew. I got so tired of it I lit off a cherry bomb in my backyard at two in the morning. Two days later I saw the carpet cleaning van next door. :cool:
This is what I think I should do. After all if my neighbors have a noisemaker that is bothering other people (me). I should be able to put a noise maker (like a siren) up in my yard and play it early in the morning.
We have a barking dog ordinance here now- I should try it out.
 

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