butchlambert
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What are the competition guys using in that size bullets in Service Rifle and other competition using 22 bullets?
Availabla 223 comp bullets in the 77-82 grain
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butchlambert
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Thanks, just check a bunch of SMK and the ogive to base aren't as close as I would want. Maybe it isn't as important in service rifle.
It really is not. Its positon shooting where mastering the positions is way more important than a 1/4 MOA rifle.
i use 69 TMK's for reduced course matches and at 200 for standing and sitting. I was also using them at 300 but I switched over to the 77 Lapua Scenars. I use the Berger 75 VLD at 600.
don't sweat the base to ogive inconsistencies in the Sierras, they are a forgiving bullet and shoot well.
don't sweat the base to ogive inconsistencies in the Sierras, they are a forgiving bullet and shoot well.
butchlambert
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It appears from your replies that factory ammo is OK and skills are more important.
pretty much. Black hills or IMI razor core 77's will shoot just fine.
butchlambert
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Guys, after talking to a couple of the top SR shooters, they will only use the best bullets. When you get to the class of shooter that they are every thing counts. They try to use the best equipment and supplies that are available.
Ha Ha guess I am chopped liver. Screw those National Records... LOL
Never mind that I loaded the ammo for Three President 100 Winners..2007,2008,2015,
three NTI Winners... 2009,2015, 2016, Most likely several other trophies such as Team and Citizen Soldier and or Mountain Man. Its ok.. just a no body.
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dang, I feel inferior now. i'd like to meet these top Service Rifle shooters. I guess i'll take my Service Rifle and go home.
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Turbulent Turtle
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It is my belief that in Service Rifle the requirements for absolute precision are not at the level as something like BR or F-Class so that measuring base to ogive for every bullet is not warranted. On the other hand SR has its own set of requirements, having to do with position shooting, iron sights and now low power scope that are not found in BR or F-Class; the priorities are somewhat different and the target faces reflect those priorities.
I shot an AR-15 in F-class for several years and after trying various SMKs and A-Maxes, I finally ended up with the 80gr JLK at all distances from 300 to 1000 yards. I found, for my needs, that the 80JLK was somewhat more consistent than the 80SMK. By the time Berger came out with their 80.5 and 82 and others, I moved from the .223 to the .308 for F-Class and even though I have a few boxes of these Bergers, I never did shoot them in competition.
I started with the 75 A-Max at 1000 yards, but had trouble keeping them supersonic at 1000 during a South Texas winter. The 80SMK and JLKs had no such issues.
I shot an AR-15 in F-class for several years and after trying various SMKs and A-Maxes, I finally ended up with the 80gr JLK at all distances from 300 to 1000 yards. I found, for my needs, that the 80JLK was somewhat more consistent than the 80SMK. By the time Berger came out with their 80.5 and 82 and others, I moved from the .223 to the .308 for F-Class and even though I have a few boxes of these Bergers, I never did shoot them in competition.
I started with the 75 A-Max at 1000 yards, but had trouble keeping them supersonic at 1000 during a South Texas winter. The 80SMK and JLKs had no such issues.
Berger 77otm as well
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I am by no means a top anything shooter but I do ok. I generally buy whatever is on sale in bulk for 200-300. Last few years it was .15 / ea 75 Hornady. BTHP. This year it is 77 Lapua Scenar L @ 0.18 / ea. Been shooting Berger 82’s @ 6 for a couple of years now with some pretty respectable results. Both SR and MR.
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Oh i would have to disagree with the "accuracy" requirements for a Service Rifle vs say another discipline. It is said that you only need a 1 MOA rifle to competitive in Highpower, but your ability to hold has to superior! But we know that quarter MOA accuracy helps tighten the area of wobble and it also builds confidence in your load and rifle!
As for the 75 Amax.. in all my experience with those, i found that they are great out to 900 yards.. beyond that is like stepping off into "No Man's Land"! But you have to have sufficient velocity for them to work at 900 yards.. It is a given that the larger bullets will out perform beyond that space!
Turbulent Turtle
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I was waiting for that, and I don't disagree with you. What I was basing my observation on is the fact that in F-class a lot of matches are decided by X-count and that's with scores close to maximum on targets that have rings of equivalent values one quarter the size of the standard NRA target rings.
I certainly do not want to give the impression I am even contemplating diminishing Service Rifle is any way; au contraire, I am always amazed at what SR shooters accomplish.
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I wonder how many times the wind was going to move it right to an 8; but I flinched left and got a 10...
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Russ and Marty, you have a PM.
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