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Are music ear buds illegal to use during a match

I commented above on the electronic hearing protection.
As an engineer on the Etymotic GSP-15 developement, I can categorically say they cannot be tampered with to allow receiving radio transmissions! They are analog amplifiers for their better fidelity , lack of abusive splatter at gun-shots and better situational awareness in tactical situations.
To modify these to receive radio signals would take a hearing aid factory and a completely different amplifier!
However, I can't comment on ear muffs with built in amplifiers as they have enough space inside to install a ham radio!!! Nor can I comment on any hearing protection with digital amplifiers ( bad choice) or blue tooth devices.
 
James A. Kelbly said:
The problem is the local club matches do not follow the rules so now a guy like ARIZONA_F_CLASS goes to a stuffy rule filled match and does not know what the rules are since his local club match does not run the match by rules they are suppose to follow because they do not want to upset the local boys. Not right in my opinion, but the way it is done. Rules are rules for a reason, not just to keep you from listening to music. Basically every rule is added when it is determined that cheating can be done and we the non cheaters do not want to be beat by cheaters. I had been on NBRSA to make all electronic devices including electronic ear muffs (you can make them receive electronic transmissions) illegal at the firing line and I was not well received on this, but with over sixty people watching the firing line thru scopes at Super Shoot, how do you know they are not coaching someone on the line? I have seen all kinds of cheating in my 29 years as a range officer for short range br. And using electronics to cheat would not surprise me.

Jim

Darned good post there. I've only been at it for about 14 years, but in that time I've seen everything from blue tooth to hand signals to just plain walking up and talking to the shooter during sighters and during a match.

Just obey the rules or don't play.... it's real simple. JMHO. ??? WD
 
James A. Kelbly said:
The problem is the local club matches do not follow the rules so now a guy like ARIZONA_F_CLASS goes to a stuffy rule filled match and does not know what the rules are since his local club match does not run the match by rules they are suppose to follow because they do not want to upset the local boys. Not right in my opinion, but the way it is done. Rules are rules for a reason, not just to keep you from listening to music. Basically every rule is added when it is determined that cheating can be done and we the non cheaters do not want to be beat by cheaters. I had been on NBRSA to make all electronic devices including electronic ear muffs (you can make them receive electronic transmissions) illegal at the firing line and I was not well received on this, but with over sixty people watching the firing line thru scopes at Super Shoot, how do you know they are not coaching someone on the line? I have seen all kinds of cheating in my 29 years as a range officer for short range br. And using electronics to cheat would not surprise me.

Jim


Great post Jim. As the range officer for the NBRSA matches at Ben Avery I have seen people listening to music on the line and in my opinion it should be illegal.
 
normmatzen said:
I commented above on the electronic hearing protection.
As an engineer on the Etymotic GSP-15 developement, I can categorically say they cannot be tampered with to allow receiving radio transmissions! They are analog amplifiers for their better fidelity , lack of abusive splatter at gun-shots and better situational awareness in tactical situations.
To modify these to receive radio signals would take a hearing aid factory and a completely different amplifier!
However, I can't comment on ear muffs with built in amplifiers as they have enough space inside to install a ham radio!!! Nor can I comment on any hearing protection with digital amplifiers ( bad choice) or blue tooth devices.



They do have a place to plug in to a radio for a tactical use but with nothing plugged in is just an amplifier. I saw cheating at the national level, but i feel when safety is involved that is paramount . If a cease fire is call and you can't hear it would be worse. jim
 

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