Anyone use Holland's Perfect Primer Seater?

[BRU15]

Hey all,

I've been priming on my Dillon 550B but I really think that inconsistent primer seating is causing me issues with SD/ES so I've been looking for a new way to prime.

I wanted a priming tool that I didn't have to touch each primer and that could hold multiple primers. Also wasn't really wanting a handheld device. And then I came across this product, has anyone used one? Do you feel that it's precise? Would you recommend it?

Would definitely appreciate some feedback from people that have used it before I spend that much money. It appears to check all the right boxes so I'm hoping that it's as good as it looks/sounds!

https://hollandsgunsmithing.com/product/hollands-perfect-primer-seater/

 

[nmkid]

I got one. It's built like a tank. No doubt will last for many, many years. Once setup it is very consistent and fast. However, there is not much, "feel" when seating the primers, if that's what you are after. Here's how I do it. First, I uniform all my primer pockets. Then I take my hand held priming tool and seat a primer where I feel it should be by "feel". Then on to the Holland's. Using the adjustments feature I seat a primer until it reaches the same depth as the hand-seated primer. I check the primer depths with the included tool/dial. Then I seat 3-5 primers and check the depths. Are they all the same...No. because of small inconsistencies of the uniforming and primer heights I think it would be pretty hard to have each primer measure the same, (but, what do I know). Anyway, they measure so very close that it's immaterial to worry about the difference. I don't worry about it for my type of shooting. I did have one problem with it...All of sudden it started seating primers out of whack? Couldn't figure out what had happened. Then I noticed the handle was completely loose. I think they dropped the ball on how the handle is set up. You can only tighten it so much. Over tightening almost prevents you being able to move the handle. So you have to keep an eye on the looseness of the handle. If the bolt that holds the handle had been made long enough to clear the body of the tool you could then possibly put a nylock on it and I think that would keep it from getting loose. All in all I like it. Good luck.

 

[J Fogg]

I have run mine for about a year I clean all primer pockets with a sinclair tool and can seat primers to within a .001 window which I think is ok. There is a learning curve to the operation of the sliding bar that you move to reload a primer on the ram but once learned goes fast. I think it is best to listen to Led Zepplin while priming helps the cordination.

 

[ireload2]

BRU15
Before constraining your choice so severely have you ever tried an array of different primer seaters so you do not have to ask for opinions?

 

[BRU15]

BRU15
Before constraining your choice so severely have you ever tried an array of different primer seaters so you do not have to ask for opinions?

Indeed, I've used a couple hand primers, I'm just really not a fan of loading one primer at a time as I'd prefer to not have to handle each one plus I work with my hands all day so I'm trying to avoid more of the same.

Doesn't change the fact that I'll always ask for opinions on a product that is unknown to me and has very few reviews. I have no desire to buy a dozen priming solutions just to find one that I might like, unfortunately I'm not made of money.

 

[BRU15]

The last sentence of the advertisement you linked reads- "Proper, uniform primer seating depth is essential to accuracy and lowering velocity deviation."

What it should have read, in my opinion is this- "Proper, uniform primer seating preload/crush is essential to accuracy and lowering velocity deviation."

I might have missed how exactly it works, but it didn't look to accomplish this goal. Keep in mind as you shop around, rim thickness variations are poor, even on high end lapua cases.

Tom

Well, it wasn't an advertisement, just the actual product page where you buy it from. Supposedly it comes with a gage to measure seating depth and set up the correct seating depth. It occurs to me that as long as you know the seating depth (uniform primer pockets) and the height of the primer you could easily set it up to the correct amount of preload? That's very true about the rim thickness, I think there's always going to be some variation regardless of the tool you're using. I'm just looking for an efficient way to prime cases that will be more consistent than my Dillon 550B but not require that I individually load each primer by hand.

Any recommendations?

 

[R.Morehouse]

RCBS universal hand priming tool. On sale at Sinclair.......I like the way it is made, no shell holders and it supports the case evenly on opposing sides. It has a tray so no handling primers and IMO has good feel.

 

[rardoin]

Well, it wasn't an advertisement, just the actual product page where you buy it from. Supposedly it comes with a gage to measure seating depth and set up the correct seating depth. It occurs to me that as long as you know the seating depth (uniform primer pockets) and the height of the primer you could easily set it up to the correct amount of preload? That's very true about the rim thickness, I think there's always going to be some variation regardless of the tool you're using. I'm just looking for an efficient way to prime cases that will be more consistent than my Dillon 550B but not require that I individually load each primer by hand.

Any recommendations?

If you want to minimize hand maneuvers to prime a case then the K&M with the seating depth indicator will not likely be a great solution. Any decent hand priming tool with rigid enough linkages to minimize deflection will allow you to get a good 'feel' of the anvil reaching the bottom of the pocket and subsequent compression of the cup to the bottom of the pocket. I suspect practice with any decent tool will yield results on target, all things considered, as good as one that gives a precise measurement. I like, and have, the Sinclair and K&M (standard model) but have great results with my 25 yo RCBS. Consistency rules and that is something that can be accomplished through tactile sensation as well as would be using a dial indicator. Feel free to flame away...