anyone try 225win shorten to 219dw length

[bheadboy]

just thinking of mixture of old and obsolete

any one try taking the 225 case and shortening it to something like the 219 dw? fun thought, as I have had 219 mashburn zipper in past,

just wondering.

Bob

 

[Savage99]

I have made some .219 Improved Zipper brass from .225 Win.

My rifle is a High Wall and the extractor does reach the smaller rim but just.

I don't shoot the rifle much these days as the woodchucks are gone! Thus I have enough of the old brass made from 219 Z. and 30-30 cases.

 

[CatShooter]

I have made some .219 Improved Zipper brass from .225 Win.

My rifle is a High Wall and the extractor does reach the smaller rim but just.

I don't shoot the rifle much these days as the woodchucks are gone! Thus I have enough of the old brass made from 219 Z. and 30-30 cases.

Where are you located - in Connecticut, our woodchucks are an endangered species.

I love falling block single shot rifles - I had two Win High Walls, one in 218 Mashburn and one in 219 DW.


I now have a Browning 78 (High Wall clone) in 6mm Rem, a Ruger #1 in 218, and a Uberti High Wall in 45-120.

 

[bheadboy]

my first "varmint rifle was a hi wall in 2r Lovell /22-3000, suing Sisk 50gr and G& H brass, which I converted to 219 mashburn Zipper when brass was all gone,, later a low wall in hornet and a ruger 3 in 221

I am feeling nostalgic and thinking it would be fun to have a highwall again. maybe take the 225 brass and go mashburn or wasp?

I might not need my 40x 22-250 then.

Bob

 

[Carolina Man]

Bob,
Harvey Donaldson did that in a rifle caliber called the "224 Donaldson Ace". Developed around 1972. Should be some folks still around that know about it. Or call the folks at The Rifle MAgazine as they did an article on it in 1972.

George

 

[bheadboy]

Thanks George, have not been able to find the mag article, however I did go to Load Data ant they have a drawing of the case and loads might want to look there,

it looks like the ace is just under the 22-250 with a lot less powder and hummmm

Bob

 

[bheadboy]

.224 Donaldson-Ace Data Reloading Data

Read more: http://www.loaddata.com/members/search_detail.cfm?MetallicID=3245#ixzz2wowm8YlM

I am crazy, what if it take my 223 700 bdl heavy bbl 26"and run this reamer in, open the bolt face, add extractor and bang, am looking at 3600-700 with a55gr pill with way less powder than 22-250 and only modest more than 223ai.

Bob

 

[Tommie]

The BR Shooting Primer has an article about the Sealy Masker Wasp, which I think is just what you're asking about. It has a typo, giving the OAL as 1.17", meaning 1.71".

If memory serves, 6mm-SM Wasp was essentially a slightly short .219 DW necked to .243 and the rim turned down to PPC dimension. However that may not apply to his .22 caliber version.

 

[bheadboy]

pngjasper,

looking for the article and also searched web for anything , seems Sealy had a 6mm version that was active br case.

have not found anything on the 22 version.

Bob

 

[Carolina Man]

Bob,
This round calls for a nice High Wall. Love the looks of them. I had one in this caliber back in the 70's along with 218 Mashburn Bee built on a Win. Low Wall. Both were nice for the AZ PD's. Sorry, to say that I don't have either rifle anymore. Fitted with an old Lyman Targetspot or something similar.

In my correspondence with Harvey in the early 70's he was very impressed with it's accuracy in comparison to the 219DW. We also discussed the 220 Swift in this comparison which has the velocity but not the level of accuracy he wanted. His rifle for the NY Ground Hogs was a High Wall as well. Along with several others.

If you can't find a HighWall go to CPA Rifles and use the Stevens 44 1/2. If you furnish the reamer they will build what ever style you want. Or contact me via PM and we can discuss this at greater depth.

George

.224 Donaldson-Ace Data Reloading Data

Read more: http://www.loaddata.com/members/search_detail.cfm?MetallicID=3245#ixzz2wowm8YlM

I am crazy, what if it take my 223 700 bdl heavy bbl 26"and run this reamer in, open the bolt face, add extractor and bang, am looking at 3600-700 with a55gr pill with way less powder than 22-250 and only modest more than 223ai.

Bob

 

[bheadboy]

George,

my original was a high wall and later also a low wall,

I am not in a super rush so I will look for a high wall and see what I can find, I like taking older rifles and doing things with them..
Thank you. for your input.

Bob

 

[thekriebles]

just thinking of mixture of old and obsolete

any one try taking the 225 case and shortening it to something like the 219 dw? fun thought, as I have had 219 mashburn zipper in past,

just wondering.

Bob

Hello Bob. I haven't personally used the 225 Win. case as a parent. Here are a few wildcats that can use the 225 Win.:

-219 Wasp
-219 Donaldson Wasp (Original)
-219 Donaldson Wasp Short
-22 Classic
-22 MCR
-22 Neidner Mag.
-22 Hummer
-219 Stingray (Stingray case is 1.63" long, which is about 0.18" shorter than the Donaldson Wasp)