Thanks for the replys guys. My gun has a 24" stainless heavy on it.the guy at armalites tech dept tuned this gun for me as I was umhappy with the out of the box accuracy. I had loads with rl 15 and 75bthp cci br4s and fresh win brass that were consistent 1/4 inchers but I changed brass and primers and the load isn't the same. Also had a n540 load with 69smk that was a one holer and benchmark and a 52 bthp sierra also one hole. Truthfully the gun deserves a better scope than it wears. It will shoot better than I can if the load and really well prepped brass is used. it is one of those guns that you get lucky as a factory built tackdriver. I hope that I am lucky enough to get another great barrel when this one dies. As far as h 4895 and varget I will def give the a fair test. the 4895 actually printed just as good a group as the 2520 but opened up from one charge jump to the next. I felt it might have been less forgiving. I like to see a powder load combo that shoots well at two different charges. I feel it shows that it is a pretty sound load. Also the 2520 meters outstanding. Oh well more testing soon. I ll repost my findings. And am also interested in anyone elses load development. Thanks again !