Anneal every piece of brass immediately when I get home and follow up with a single push in and out of a slightly used blue Iosso brush. Simple and works perfect. I’ve never cleaned a single piece of brass, inside or outside. I will clean the outside of the necks using the Krazy Kloth every third firing.
Brass Juice. It's expensive, but you can do several loads with the same liquid before discarding. It cleans better than Dawn/Lemi so you can shorten the tumble time for less peening of case mouths.
Being a fella that is a fan of consistent seating force, I find it difficult not to brush case necks and achieve my goals.
Recently a friend went down the rabbit hole of doing what made his seating force feel identical at the expense of having enough bullet pull to make 133 happy. After he got over that, his groups improved noticeably. IMO he was paying too much attention to his arbor press handle and not enough to what his targets were telling him, letting the tail wag the dog. When the fellow who owns the records did his testing, it was strictly based on group size. I should add that in both cases the context was short range group benchrest.
I’m glad you friend got things squared away, all I know is what works for me and when you use as much bullet hold (.004 under a loaded round) as my targets like, not brushing the necks IME just leaves unnecessary rough carbon creating uneven friction that adds a layer of complexity and inconsistency that I personally don’t care for when I’m loading long range record ammunition.
That is why I made the point about short range group, not so much for you, but for others who might be reading. I am very much aware of the differences between long and short range. BTW the friend that I mentioned who owns the records, throws all of his charges directly into cases. Try that for long range ;-)
Yeah, throwing charges may not work out to well in LR. So with your friends knowledge at hand do you follow his lead and not prep the case neck ID’s or test for yourself and follow your own results ?
I run a worn out bore brush in and out twice, just to clear out the boulders. My problems were always more about wind flags and tune. Stuff like this was way down on my list, because of my level of experience. Under perfect test conditions, my rifle would do low twos and high ones. Actually, I should qualify that by saying with me shooting it. If someone else worked up their own load, and shot it....who knows. Typically I was a mid pack shooter, sometimes better.
Boyd knows a lot about loading quality ammo and usually states srbr but he’s been in it long enough to know what works in both disciplines, I’ve learned a lot from him over the years. Per phone calls with him we tested many things and ideas over the years. I don’t always agree with him as he doesn’t always agree with me but when he speaks I listen.
I don’t believe I’m disagreeing with anyone beyond my original post, and if that’s taken as argumentative, I certainly apologize.
Not at all sir, I value your thoughts also
I don’t often clean much, I use a little steel wool prior to sizing but your logic is hard to argue with as we all know the key to accuracy is consistency
