Anschutz stock quandary.

[nagantino]

Total New Guy, here. I shoot many disciplines in pistol mostly, but rifle also. I’m getting into .22 bench rest seriously and have an Anschutz 54 lined up, similar to the photo. I’m wondering why the wooden stock is angled in the way that it is. Others I see are flat or parallel to the barrel which seems to make sense. At the same time I can’t believe Anschutz design is wrong for 50 yard bench. I want to buy wisely first time and would appreciate everyone’s thoughts.

 

[Walt Krafft]

That stock is designed for position shooting not benchrest.

 

[Rtheurer]

In the Small Bore position shooting world. Standing, Sitting ,Kneeling and prone. There is a class called Free Rifle which has all the Hooked Buttplate's, adjustable everything,( cheek, length of pull, grip angle, OH blocks, ect ect) then there is the STANDARD rifle Which is what that rifle is. It is a class of rifle to make it all equal for all shooters with minimum adjustments. The bottom of the stock is sloped like that for shooting Standing or Off Hand as its referred too. Getting the rifle up high to your face and in the shoulder, instead of pushing your head down to the stock.
So thats the short version of the sport of SmallBore position shooting.

 

[nagantino]

So it’s a not really a benchrest rifle, is that right. My club is selling it to me at a good price, also, I have heard something about a wedge being added at $50 or so. I’ve no idea what that is.

 

[Peterson1]

So it’s a not really a benchrest rifle, is that right. My club is selling it to me at a good price, also, I have heard something about a wedge being added at $50 or so. I’ve no idea what that is.

I think their referring to a an accessory block(Wedge)of material (Frequently Delrin like) attached to the accessory rail to make the forend 3' wide to fit Benchrest front rests.
My guess.
CLP

 

[flatlander]

Anschutz makes a BR stock, and it's quite a bit different than that standard stock. And while there may be a few guys shooting BR with irons, it's far from common or ideal. A scope of 24x or higher is much more common in BR circles.

 

[nagantino]

Sorry, my bad. I was asking about the shape of the stock, not the sights. I have already bought a Weaver T36 for the rifle, ready to go. It’s the sloping stock that I need to understand.

 

[1813benny]

I think their referring to a an accessory block(Wedge)of material (Frequently Delrin like) attached to the accessory rail to make the forend 3' wide to fit Benchrest front rests.
My guess.
CLP

The "wedge" that was referred to does attach to the rail, however it is a true wedge shape that makes the bottom of the stock flat vs sloped as in the photo.

 

[jpx2rk]

I use a MPR 64 for local ABRA/PS150 matches with the original stock, and I a front rest rider plate from Brownells attached to the forearm rail which is 3" wide IIRC. I also have used a Delrin front rider plate, but swapped it out for the metal plate which has the "ski's". I recently went to a 1 pc rest (PQP) but used a mechanical rear rest before that. I'm competitive with this set up, win a few cards, but no matches yet. I suck at reading the wind.

 

[10XSHOOTER]

Sell the stock and get a McMillan BR stock to put it in.

 

[hfinkle]

I have an older 54 for benchrest, I sold the stock and put a McMillan stock on it, works great.

 

[Tim Slater]

Just to add a little more, the Anschutz pictured (mod 1407 if anyone's interested) was made around 1975. Rimfire BR was not a thing then. Anschutz didn't make a dedicated RFBR rifle until the BR50 in the 1990s; the BR50 stock, from which Anschutz's current BR patterns evolved, was based on the 1911 Prone rifle.

As noted above it's a 3-Position rifle, and a one-size-fits-all type known as an ISU Standard*. The wedge shaped fore-end is deep at the trigger guard to raise the rifle in an elbow-on-hip standing position. The fore-end is shallower further out so the rifle sits lower in the Prone and Kneeling positions. A stock that's uniformly deep would sit way too high in the sling positions.

*The ISU (International Shooting Union) Standard rifle developed from the 300m Army Rifle, and the German DSB National rifle, itself developed from the interwar Wehrsportkarabiner, a paramilitary trainer. The idea was to increase participation through a rifle that was cheaper than an Olympic Free rifle, was less technically demanding, and was shot over a shorter course of fire.

 

[kzin]

Benchrest Wedge

Benchrest Wedge

www.nordicmarksman.com

Ideally, you would do something similar for the buttstock also.

Some people simply saw the toe off the stock.



You could get a new br stock for the action for something like 600$ from anschutz
Or a custom stock for similar price plus a wait time.

 

[kzin]

post #12 said 1407
google images looks like that's correct

Here is the rifle. It needs some attention but I can do that. I’m reluctant to cut a piece off so a wedge looks like the answer. Would anyone take a shot at which Anschutz model it is?

 

[1813benny]

I agree that like a 1407 but the trigger is straight blade and it’s not a wing safety.

Is there a letter after the serial number and /or a slot cut in the bottom of the bolt?

Regards,
Ken

 

[SBS]

Sell the stock and get a McMillan BR stock to put it in.

^^^^^
Good advice. Your line of sight (above the bottom of the stock ) is much higher than necessary, and any canting of the rifle will exaggerate the error. A modern proper BR stock will be much lower and both the forend and bottom of the butt will be on the same plane, minimizing the tendency for the rifle to rise vertically when fired. That said, look what it takes to be competitive where you shoot and you may be there with simply fitting a front wedge or even a forend bag riding plate.

 

[kzin]

Benchrest Wedge Black

Benchrest Wedge Black

www.nordicmarksman.com

Actually the 'black' looks like a completely different piece than the wood.
The rider looks better on the black

 

[kzin]

I bought my 54 new in this stock. Seems perfect for BR / F-Open

1907, 1913 and 54.30 BR50-U7 Benchrest Stock

1907, 1913 and 54.30 BR50-U7 Benchrest Stock

www.nordicmarksman.com

 

[SBS]

I agree that like a 1407 but the trigger is straight blade and it’s not a wing safety.

Is there a letter after the serial number and /or a slot cut in the bottom of the bolt?

Regards,
Ken

Looks like a 1407-U9, which was a common option on the 1400 series 54 target rifles. I can't see the left side to tell if it has a wing safety or not, but I don't think the 1407-U9 was fitted to a later series such as the 16XX.

 

[1813benny]

Looks like a 1407-U9, which was a common option on the 1400 series 54 target rifles. I can't see the left side to tell if it has a wing safety or not, but I don't think the 1407-U9 was fitted to a later series such as the 16XX.

Does not look like a wing safety as the bolt cap looks more like my 18xx series. The firing pin indicator also has the relief cut for the red color.
I was wondering if it was a “16xx” transition rifle.

ken